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HugoBlack Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: Jul 27, 2005 Posts: 57
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sarcastic_Name wrote: | | I probably could be an accountant. But I really can't stand something as boring and meticilous. I'm more of the performing/creating artsy type of person, but I do excel at Algebra and number crunching. |
If you are creative, go for your dreams. But I have not found accounting to be boring or meticilous (unlike school, which is nothing like the real world) because you sit there, by yourself without any social demands, basicaly following procedures and solving problems. None of it is complicated. |
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stlf Phoenix


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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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accounting is the devil  |
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HugoBlack Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: |
Well, it depends on what your doing and what your attitude is toward it. I used to think exactly like that myself but to tell the truth when I started reading up on the COSO and Cobit sites the kinds of stuff they had fascinated me. Auditing especially is about diving in to internal controls in companies (ie. the processes information passes through that act as natural checks against fraud, mistakes, etc.) and doing substantive tests with transactions to follow everything through the main 7 transaction cycles to make sure it checks out all the way through the process. |
Are you an auditor? I don't think I would ever last in auditing because it is too subjective and too social. Most auditors (except in house internal auditors, and even then) deal with people a lot, usually clients. Public accounting (that is public, not corporate accounting) in general is a highly extroverted environment. The can and will get rid of you for no reason other than they don't like you. Actually today someone (an NT) said that he was very literal. I think that is the first time I have heard an NT say that. The people who do well in accounting have traits much like ours, such as being literal or introverted.
As for the subject matter, it is not a good idea to think that because you think of some subject in school a certain way that you will think about that subject in the real world that way. School is nothing like the real world. Because you don't like something for 4 years in school doesn't have anything to do with whether you would like it for 40 years in the working world. |
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HugoBlack Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ridgerider wrote: | Double entry accounting, so logical. It all has to balance. Love it. Got accounting job, bought a textbook and learned it on the fly, tho ended up in charge of other people but was already a little older so could fake normal interactions and since it was all so objective discussions were easier. First started with Televideo computer running CPM, then the Lisa, so tho am still only an enduser I could pick up the computing stuff relatively easy back then and in land of blind, one eyed man is king. Lost one job when boss swore and yelled at me and I asked for an apology and he said "F--- You" so I didn't know proper response so picked up my chair and threw it at his head. Lost that job.
Had some other accounting jobs tho, when I couldn't do other things, but long term career goals have never really been that important to me so would move on when bored. |
What do you do now? Have you been pretty successful in accounting? |
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techstepgenr8tion that chatty American


Joined: Feb 07, 2005 Age: 30 Posts: 7164 Location: The fine world of insomnia and coffee
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| HugoBlack wrote: | | techstepgenr8tion wrote: | | chamoisee wrote: | I've actually considered accounting. Don't you have to have really good math skils? I have tried for years to comprehend algebra, unsuccessfully.  |
Depends. What you need is good numeric reasoning, good basic math, and you have to understand a lot of the basic finance equasions at least well enough (ie. mostly business-math). |
You don't need to know any finance equations in accounting. The most complex it gets is a simple ratio like profits divided into sales. It doesn't get more complicated than that. |
Well, you do to get through Intro to Finance and know how to do all the time-value of money stuff that you do in intermediate accounting  |
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ridgerider Deinonychus


Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Posts: 303 Location: outside looking in
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |
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>>Had some other accounting jobs tho, when I couldn't do other things, but long term career goals have never really been that important to me so would move on when bored. <<
>What do you do now? Have you been pretty successful in accounting?<
Not successful, really. And maybe I wasn't so much an accountant as a bookkeeper.
I do have one part time job I do out of home for a small real estate holding company. I get checks in the mail and bills and make deposits and pay bills and reconcile the statements and do their taxes. Simple cash flow projections. Pretty much work when I want as long as everything gets paid on time and only see someone once a month when he comes over and signs checks. He knows me for 30 years so isn't expecting NT interactions, i.e. I don't have to dress up or make any small talk unless I want to.
Know another guy who runs a bigger but still small corporation who cals me and emails me to review stuff he is wrestling with. Even sometimes I have suggested legal strategies to him he has had his attorneys carry out. He doesn't have me go to meetings because I get frustrated when petty bureaucrats good at smoozing and office politics because they are good at that stuff (I am terrible at it) get in positions where they can dumb down the dialogue. I have been known to yell at people. But he knows me well enough that we can talk about business at hand and no need to wear the NT mask.
My wife does a craft business so I do her accounting and logistical support for lining up shows and stuff.
Somehow along the line I managed to end up in my own house that is paid for so housing costs are minimal and all my kids have moved out and are capable of caring for themselves so costs are low. Mainly we do without a lot of stuff Americans take for granted and are comfortable living below what is considered the poverty line. But I don't feel poor. Live in country so heat with wood. Stuff like that. A garden. Yard sales, flea markets and auctions instead of the mall. _________________ "The voyage of discovery lies not in finding new landscapes but in having new eyes." - Marcel Proust |
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HugoBlack Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: |
Well, you do to get through Intro to Finance and know how to do all the time-value of money stuff that you do in intermediate accounting  |
In school you may use a little of this. In the real world of work you never will. |
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