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ouinon
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 Still on the subject of homeschooling and the importance/value of internet/video game/MMORPG activity as a massive training/learning arena not to be confused with addiction  ........Sinsboldly posted a super article in the "Media Representation etc of AS" forum, at:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt61150.html
about how Second Life and similar online worlds can function as useful training grounds for people having trouble with social skills offline, specifically for people with Autism/Aspergers.
Which reminded me of Nick Yee, and his site "The Daedalus Project/Gateway", at:
http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus
and other articles/info at:
http://www.nickyee.com
Happy reading. It's a great site. 
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| ouinon wrote: | | DW_a_mom wrote: | | I have found time on the computer to be addicting in an unhealthy manner, in a way that nothing else in my life is. It draws me to it when I have told myself a zillion times over that I am not opening it today. My sister will stay up all night playing her Everquest. |
Would this worry you if it was a painting she was "obsessively" scraping away at? Or a novel that she was rewriting for the fourth time? Or if she was a keen chess player with a play-partner only available evenings/nights? Or if it was to earn money in a second job to support a family? My point is that your attitude to its use depends on what you think it is for and what value it has and whether it is a good thing . |
Painting will never draw you to it even when you would actually prefer to do something else. I am a painter. I know the difference.
I can actually get "addicted" to a book, as well, but because it is a physical object, that addiction is very easy to manage. I only buy or borrow a new book when I have time to read it non-stop. The problem with the internet is that because it bears some real life necessities, it is ever present in our lives, always becconing.
Don't discount the addictive nature of the internet. There is a huge difference between following an intense interest, that gives you joy and satisfication, v. finding yourself drawn to something at times you feel it is actually destructive, but go to it anyway.
TV can be the same way, just something people find themselves "doing."
You MUST pay attention to how and when "screen time" is being used. It is not an issue for everyone, but it is a VERY REAL issue. DO NOT continue to swipe it away as being similar to any other Aspie obsession: sometimes it is, but often it is NOT. I AM LIVING THIS AT THIS VERY MOMENT. And I KNOW it isn't healthy.
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ouinon
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| DW_a_mom wrote: | | Painting will never draw you to it even when you would actually prefer to do something else. I am a painter. I know the difference. |
This doesn't have very much to do with whether people's children could homeschool if they wanted to, but it's interesting so ...
Oddly enough I paint too,.. sometimes. Although I agree that my smaller colour pencil drawings do not summon me to them till late at night when I am really shattered, my larger, in fact big abstract panel/wall paintings have done. To the point that I have often found myself unable to stop painting although longing to rest. On many occasions, sometimes till dawn.
And the experience is more painful than any that I have had on the internet. I "had" to carry on. And of these all night sessions only one was a success, and that one I had to paint out because it was on the wall of a rented room.
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ouinon
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To return to the thread topic somewhat, it occurred to me that one immensely important reason why many children may be deeply drawn to online games is that they are not "children" there, but equal with others. There they are no longer discriminated against, restrained, on the basis of age.
It must be intoxicating, to find somewhere where you have the same power as adults. Where all that matters is skill, and time/availability.
A way to make online life less thrilling to children might be to give them the same freedoms/liberties/powers as adults.
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ouinon
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| DW_a_mom wrote: | | I AM LIVING THIS AT THIS VERY MOMENT. And I KNOW it isn't healthy. |
What exactly are you living?
  
Just because you or someone close to you is experiencing addictive /compulsive behaviour patterns around something is not sufficient reason to condemn or limit that "thing" . Addiction is a symptom/expression of something/a need in the "addicted". Some "things" are more susceptible than others to playing the role of addictive "object", but the addiction is still the "responsibility" of the addicted person.
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| ouinon wrote: | | DW_a_mom wrote: | | I AM LIVING THIS AT THIS VERY MOMENT. And I KNOW it isn't healthy. |
What exactly are you living?
Just because you or someone close to you is experiencing addictive /compulsive behaviour patterns around something is not sufficient reason to condemn or limit that "thing" . Addiction is a symptom/expression of something/a need in the "addicted". Some "things" are more susceptible than others to playing the role of addictive "object", but the addiction is still the "responsibility" of the addicted person.
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Except when that person is a child.
That's all I'm saying.
And if I wasn't addicted to this dang internet thing I would be doing something more productive or positive at this moment than posting here! I take full responsibility for it, in me. And only ask that parents recognize that it can happen in their children, and take the steps now that will insure their children understand how to use the tool in moderation and as appropriate, ONLY.
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