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MissConstrue
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daveybaby wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/


All of these are free, except for their books. Rehabs tend to use the 12-Step method. So, you should ask the rehab, if you're planning on going to one, if they use the 12-Steps. 95% of rehabs in the USA use the 12-Steps.


I used Rational Recovery at first. It worked, but it only halted my drinking and drugging, temporarily too. I don't know anything about the other methods. So RR can quickly stop the abuse of drugs for a rational person who likes to intellectuelize everything, but it doesn't take care of some of the core issues that resulting from a drug-addled brain (even when all the substances drained out, I still felt hollow on the inside and I wasn't taking care of myself and I ESPECIALLY wasn't socializing). 12-steps take care of more than just the booze, they take care of why you went to the booze in the first place and how you can better yourself.


That's great. Sometimes I don't think AA and self discipline work alone. Thankyou
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a common problem for our crowd.

I went to AA years ago, just to listen. I quit drinking for prolly four years, until My Missus told me it was OK for me to drink. Now I can't hardly go a day without a dram.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Speaking from Experience Reply with quote

I'm a recovering drug addice and alcoholic. I went through years of abuse. I'm two years (very close) clean and sober. It's been an experience that no other has come close to.

I got sober and clean through a 12 step program. Knowing that there were others out there that had gone through the same thing as I was immensely helpful.

I was killing myself slowly, and was tired of it. Being sober has been the greatest gift, to me and my children. I have learned so much about myself.

Anyone with questions...fire away. Because, there is a better way.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd rant here.

Haven't been going to AA meetings for a while. I keep thinking I can do this by myself but lately I think I've been over confident about it. My supporters were right. Lately it's been racing through my mind. I'm always alone and feel like I'll lose sanity over it. There's been many times of wanting to go to the liquor store to buy something that will for a short term ease my mind and issues. I feel like I've been nothing but a joke to life. I've been having nightmares about relapsing and going into hospitals and shelters again. I'm trying not to let these thoughts give me an excuse for my substance of choice. I don't wanna go back there again. I''ve never been able to succefully stay in contact with my sponsor and I was getting sick of some of the members telling me how reluctant I looked for being there. I think some of them think I'm being anti-social on purpose and I'm not. I'd give anything to be able to do these small chats that they enjoy. I've already told a few members about my crappy AS. Many of them had no idea what I was talking about so I never went into details b/c I'm still embarassed about it myself. I guess I should've made a big humilating deal about it since it may be part of why ppl misconstrue me so easily. I think I'm also substituting one addiction over the other....da da da da da. Life is sooooo hard to care about espeacially when I have to keep myself from lashing back at jerks who get nasty towards me for an obvious reason I don't know of. I even try to get on their good side and they still act like jackoffs. So, not the type of ppl I would wanna be around. It's like whatever I tell them goes from one ear out the other. They pretend they want help and then scream for the center of attention with more problems. So, good luck with them and their outcome. I'm also worried about a family member, she isn't doing well, she's getting worse. I hate it that my family members laugh at her b/c she's been acting strange from her condition. I don't know how to prepare myself for death. I've never had any death in the family. I'm also worried about another person who's been suicidal. I hope they don't do it and get the help that they deserve. Well still don't want to give up my freakn' ass sobriety over this crap. Oh woe is me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, glad I got that outta my system. Embarassed

Think I just need to keep up with my AA meetings. I've been feeling very selfish lately and into that ego mode again that got me in trouble many times before.

I'm still bad at stay connected with a sponsor. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was never a drinker in my teens nor twenties
it started slowly when i quit the prior job 4 years ago
escalated to a daily thing when my cat died then another pet
then my fia...might seem shallow to other people but it really
hit me hard to lose all of them.
this year i have been sober since february, had 1 drink in april
and another in may but didn't progressed to anything...so far
i know i can overcome this. just have to focus.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be a smoker, and quit a few times. I didn't smoke tobacco for around a year, but yesterday, I decided to smoke a few hash joints with tobacco, with the result, I'm fighting nicotine addiction today. I'm sooo tempted to run down and buy a pack. Any suggestions on not thinking about tobacco? I'm trying to keep myself busy watching wuxia and experimenting with joomla, but it's not helping much.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I don't know since mine were not tobacco but mind altering substances. What's joomla BTW? Don't they have nicotine or gum for tobacco for that?

As for any addictions meetings are good for that if you're willing to admit you have a problem of course that's......if you really do have a problem. You get extra support by other members who are dealing with the same issues. NA/AA meetings and rehabs. Although I wouldn't recommend rehabs unless you're trying to dry out since most ppl are forced into them.

Meetings are places ppl are willing to go for help and support and then eventually in return do the same thing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm already off it. G ^^;;

They don't have nicotine gum here. Joomla is an open source content management system.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissConstrue wrote:
OK, glad I got that outta my system. Embarassed

Think I just need to keep up with my AA meetings. I've been feeling very selfish lately and into that ego mode again that got me in trouble many times before.

I'm still bad at stay connected with a sponsor. Sad
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AA meetings won't bite you know Very Happy I get the ego thing, but be careful. Substance abuse is a really fickle thing - it'll bite you in the butt if you're not careful.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx Ebec. Smile

Something I'm still learning to deal with. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have dealt with addiction in the past. I was really put-off by the idea of any kind of rehab or group therapy, since those kinds of social situations freak me out.

I recovered on my own, with a little medical help. I think this was really the best option for me. I think that joining some kind of group might have just led to more problems.

Different things work for different people - there is no solution that is universally effective. What does matter, in all cases, is whether or not you want to change your ways. As long as you are motivated to change, there is hope.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll probably go on the sauce until I need my brain again. Until that time, I need it to shut up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalister1 wrote:
I'll probably go on the sauce until I need my brain again. Until that time, I need it to shut up.


that is what I did Kalister. . I drank my self into black outs because when I talked, I at least didn't have to hear myself! Rolling Eyes

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