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lau Quinquaginta Novem! Male Gee-knee-us + silly bits.

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: The "D" word for autism? |
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OK. So I've just seen myself called dysfunctional. I find that offensive. In fact, I find most of these labels offensive.
I'll not surprise anyone by saying that my own vote goes to "difference".
My second choice would be "disability". I do find that my Asperger's syndrome is disabling, to an extent, as society currently doesn't accommodate some of my differences particularly well (as I found out last week, when the National Autistic Society flashed images in my eyes for an hour, without thinking it might destroy my concentration).
I really would like people to stop calling me diseased or disordered.
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CockneyRebel Sid The Love Rat :O)

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I like the word, deviance, because it reminds me of X Men.  _________________ Sid The Rat is everything that I stand for. We're both large, proud Punkers with Cockney accents. We both have the same issues, as well. I don't see anything wrong, with that. I was put on this planet, to make myself happy. Sid :O) |
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Pepperfire Velociraptor


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I like Lau found most of the words quite offensive.
I assume that distiction is supposed to be distinction?
If there were specifics suggesting that ASDs were in any way specific, I might lean towards that as a second choice.
As it is, I chose "difference"... but I lean on changing the D to an S and prefer to use "situation". _________________ I do believe in spooks! I do, I do believe in spooks! |
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lau Quinquaginta Novem! Male Gee-knee-us + silly bits.

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ah well, so mt spell check didn'y seem yo pick up on yhay one. "Disyincyion" now has iys full complemeny of "n"s. I reallt yhoughy I had yried hard yo proof read iy all, buy yhere alwats will be yhe odd ket cap yhay dodges sidewats, jusy as tou go yo ytpe iy. _________________ Oregano, n: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding.
Laws:
Ogden: The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
Oliver: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Osborn: Variables won't; constants aren't. |
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Pepperfire Velociraptor


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| lau wrote: | | Ah well, so mt spell check didn'y seem yo pick up on yhay one. "Disyincyion" now has iys full complemeny of "n"s. I reallt yhoughy I had yried hard yo proof read iy all, buy yhere alwats will be yhe odd ket cap yhay dodges sidewats, jusy as tou go yo ytpe iy. |
smaryalec! lol _________________ I do believe in spooks! I do, I do believe in spooks! |
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EvilKimEvil zoo-music girl

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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difference / disability / distinction
It is many different things, and it affects people differently. We're all different, but we experience varying degrees of disability and distinction.
To many, we are deviant. But deviance is usually in the eye of the beholder, not the so-called deviant. |
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Warsie HMFIC G Representin' Da South Side of Chi-Town

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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difference _________________ I am a Star Wars Fan, Warsie here.
9/11 was an inside job
http://www.911truth.org/
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preludeman Velociraptor


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: My Two Cents |
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I like "distinction." The other I am not fond of too much. _________________ Do what you can when you can. I'm also the "alien"they are looking for. |
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Dracula Velociraptor


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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MysteryFan3 Ex-COBOL dinosaur. roar.

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Deviance
How about diaspora? _________________ To eliminate poverty, you have to eliminate at least three things: time, the bell curve and the Pauli Exclusion Principle. Have fun. |
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Vexcalibur Phoenix


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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It is a dysfunction.
| Quote: | | A state of not functioning normally. |
That's the first result for define:dysfunction. |
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EvilKimEvil zoo-music girl

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Vexcalibur wrote: | It is a dysfunction.
| Quote: | | A state of not functioning normally. |
That's the first result for define:dysfunction. |
This is my dictionary's definition of it:
| Quote: | dysfunction |disˈfə ng k sh ən|
noun
abnormality or impairment in the function of a specified bodily organ or system : bowel dysfunction.
• deviation from the norms of social behavior in a way regarded as bad : inner-city dysfunction. |
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Danielismyname but a turtle

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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The DSM-IV-TR has "disorder" and "disability". The former is the name for the ASD umbrella, as well as the specific disorders; the latter is used in relation to the effects.
I don't find the above two offensive at all as they explain the difficulties one will experience. |
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velodog Gold Supporter


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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| I prefer the word different, my generally honest nature made me vote disability since Aspergers has taken more from me than it has given. |
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lau Quinquaginta Novem! Male Gee-knee-us + silly bits.

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Vexcalibur wrote: | It is a dysfunction.
| Quote: | | A state of not functioning normally. |
That's the first result for define:dysfunction. |
| Oxford English Dictionary wrote: | dys- prefix
... inseparable prefix, ... with notion of hard, bad, unlucky, etc.; destroying the good sense of a word, or increasing its bad sense’ (Liddell and Scott). In Eng. used in many words, chiefly scientific, derived or compounded from Greek; the more important of these are entered as Main words; others (mostly pathological) follow here. ... |
The word "pathological" is also worth looking up.
Also, as usual, who defines "normal"?
| MysteryFan3 wrote: | | How about diaspora? |
I liked that one, but as I don't believe that the proportion of autistic individuals has been significantly different throughout history, I don't think it works, after all. OTOH, it is true that the awareness is spreading.
| Danielismyname wrote: | | The DSM-IV-TR has "disorder" and "disability". |
I find that one rather interesting. Do we have any idea why the DSM attempted (in 1994) to change Asperger's from a syndrome to a disorder?
Again, from the OED: | Quote: | Asperger's syndrome:
1971 Jrnl. Autism & Childhood Schizophrenia 1 82 Early infantile autism and autistic psychopathy were first reported within the span of 1 year (1943-1944). While the former (Kanner's syndrome) has become the widely known focus of intensive investigation, the latter (Asperger's syndrome) did not receive the attention it deserves. |
then | Quote: | Asperger's disorder:
1994 Diagnostic & Statist. Man. Mental Disorders (Amer. Psychiatric Assoc.) (ed. 4) 76 Asperger's Disorder is not diagnosed if criteria are met for another Pervasive Developmental Disorder. |
I.e. for some reason (standardisation?) in 1994, after 23 years of aspies and auties having collections of symptoms, the DSM changed them to being disordered people.
(Symptom is a term I'm happy with. A runny nose is a symptom of a cold - or it could be a symptom of peeling onions. Intelligent speech is a symptom of an active mind) _________________ Oregano, n: The ancient Italian art of pizza folding.
Laws:
Ogden: The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
Oliver: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Osborn: Variables won't; constants aren't. |
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