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KingdomOfRats
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 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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MJIthewriter,
know self better than some bully on the internet,so dont let it bother,unless they have grown up with self,and know self off line now-they're just being ignorant b.............s.
they are saying every other autistic on there is fake,it is really stupid how they [this user,and anyone else whos said the same sort of thing which tehre are a few] base the entire autistic members community there on a few they dont agree with,so the rest are fakes/trolls/john best whatever.
they do have their 'chosen' users on there and will actually ignore anyone else,but there are some great members who do not have that elitism.
am would say if do not get anything out of going to AS,dont bother with it,stay on WP where are not going to get that sort of treatment.
it is also because they are associating wrong planet with people who have gone over there to troll and to act like they represent all of autism when they dont [which annoys am as well],they are fed up with hfas/aspies telling them that autism is a difference,not disability,and telling them to use hf thinking on their lf kid which wont work.
they also seem to think adult autistics were never children,and are not allowed to speak their childhood experience with autism,
though that is the elitist ones on there only not all the members.
they also get WP and AFF mixed up a lot.
Am have stayed off it since those WP attacking threads,though had a look last night without logging in and noticed they had the autism police back [the member who polices peoples level of autism,says who she thinks doesn't have it,if its not 'right' they get nastiness,if it's AS,get worse,if it's self diagnosed as-it's full on attack] it makes that forum even more horrible to use because its filled with their abuse.
AS really need to do something about the forum.
am not a member of it [sometimes have a look at it],but the AS member-Thomas has done a good job with keeping any nastiness off his forum,neuro integrity,why cant AS manage it.
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CockneyRebel
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EvilKimEvil
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Location: highway to hell
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| MJIthewriter wrote: | Here is the post that made me feel a big slap in the face:
| Quote: | would like to add here that the online behavior of most of the adults, who say they have Autism, that I have read is something I would never want my child to be exposed to. The only exceptions to this is ****** and ****** who are amazing and honest.
I perfer to speak to adults in my community who have Autism. It is interesting how different their views are on acceptance than what is portrayed online. So if I want to know about how someone with Autism sees their world then I will ask a REAL live person with Autism. Anyone can be who they want online and sadly for some reason Autism appears to be the new "goth" for some. |
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That kind of attack is so self-defeating it's funny. It's like they're just begging for their own arguments to be used against them. Oh, you want to talk to "a REAL live person with Autism"? OK, then I'll ignore you and go find a "REAL live PARENT of a person with Autism" (or grandparent, sibling, or whatever that person is). "Anyone can be who they want online"? So how do we know you are who you say you are? "Autism appears to be the new "goth""? So wouldn't that mean that being a "parent of a child with autism" is just another trendy sub-culture?
BTW, all of the above is intended as a criticism of the offending text, and nothing more. It does not necessarily reflect my actual attitudes or views on the subject matter being discussed (I don't think it's trendy to pose as an autistic person or the parent of an autistic person). |
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morning_after
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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MJ, I have a long story about dealing with cyber-bullies. If you want me to post it, let me know.
Other than that, I will say what that person says about anyone being able to post anything online is true, but that applies to them too. Sometimes people will post anything they can that mocks or ridicules you, but it's not so that they can make fun of you.
They are addicted to attention. Think of them as the internet version of people with Manchausen's (have you heard of this?) They'll even kill babies and pretend that it was just a circumstance that they were around because they are addicted to the attention that it will give them.
So when someone blasts away at you and says something like "You are not who you claim to be", replace the word you in your head with the word I, so that it will be something like "I am not who I claim to be" and do not take it personally.
And do not respond or talk about them. When they see that, it will feed their need for attention. Just make like they posted nothing. They'll get desperate, which will make them many times more offensive, but they will show themselves for who they are and when they do not get the reaction they want after a while they will leave you alone.
At least those are my thoughts.
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morning_after
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btw, what's the deal with AFF and AS? It seems like they're both hostile to each other.
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Belfast
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Frustrated and discouraged |
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| MJIthewriter wrote: | I've been trying to advocate on AS. I've gotten many kind comments and thank yous, but this week it's turning ugly with some members. I'm feeling pretty hurt. Maybe I just need a shoulder to cry on so to speak...
http://detailedthinker.blogspot.com/
I wrote about one of the offensive comments in my blog.
I deliberately left the username out. |
Looked at your blog & bookmarked it-your writing is thoughtful & considerate, from my point of view.
Hard not to feel downtrodden & squashed when one's merely trying to do the right thing (using only written language) & reaction one gets is a disaster. It's really unfortunate & counterproductive that some people treat other people so poorly, online (and off).
Am not privy to what transpires on most other ASD sites, and from what I hear (in a few cases) that's a good thing. Condolences on being snarled at in words by someone who sounds angry & impossible to please.
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MJIthewriter
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I'm sorry for being MIA, but I did manage to have a peaceful discussion with the person who aggravated me originally. I feel better about that person now, and I hope they do towards me too. It is one of the fun challenges I try to do is resolve conflicts peacefully if I can. Now if I can do it all the time, that would be awesome, but I guess that would mean not being human...
Thanks everyone for your support. I don't believe everyone there is "hopeless" for lack of a better term, but there are a few that need some gentle reminders and poking... By poking I mean a gentle nudge and not a stab.
The best we can do is just the same. Try to be as peaceful and nonconfrontational as possible. |
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morning_after
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| MJIthewriter wrote: | I'm sorry for being MIA, but I did manage to have a peaceful discussion with the person who aggravated me originally. I feel better about that person now, and I hope they do towards me too. It is one of the fun challenges I try to do is resolve conflicts peacefully if I can. Now if I can do it all the time, that would be awesome, but I guess that would mean not being human...
Thanks everyone for your support. I don't believe everyone there is "hopeless" for lack of a better term, but there are a few that need some gentle reminders and poking... By poking I mean a gentle nudge and not a stab.
The best we can do is just the same. Try to be as peaceful and nonconfrontational as possible. |
Well, at least you tried, right? if they don't like it you can move on.
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