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Stealth
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 Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Do aspies have a learning disability? |
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| I was just wondering if any aspies have problems at school. I have a learning disability when it comes to math and english. I can't grasp the concept. |
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Batman1992
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I have problems with math too. I just really don't get it. How are you having trouble?
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Stealth
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| When the professor is explaining on how to do something, I just get a blank mind and don't understand it. It's almost like he's speaking a different language. |
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Poeticromance
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| Aspies can have them. I have problems in math and science. There both so detailed that if I only get the bases of it, I miss parts that I NEED to do it correctly. |
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sim
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Math and science aren't 'abstract' at all (as... who was it? Thomas Hobbes? would say) in that it doesn't deal with things that "aren't there". For example (a simple one) the distance between two points x1 and x2 is (x2 - x1), the answer can be found in different ways (such as not finding the difference by subtraction and just adding numbers to x1 intuitively until it equals x2, and however much you added would be the answer). Don't know if that helped, but I hope it sort of did. Just to let you know that if you go into math with the mindset that you'll get everything without trying to find 'hidden meanings' then you'll do fine.
Oh, also, it's not at all a disability. Sure - a guy in a wheelchair can't run, but that's only a disability as long as he doesn't have the money to afford robotic or prosthetic legs. As long as you don't have the patience, concentration, motivation, etc., to learn something, then you're disabled, but you don't 'have' a disability.
I'll definitely be contended with on this. Yes. I ignored physical cognitive deficits. I'll be happy to discuss with anyone where we should draw the line between 'improper methodology' and 'physical deficit'. |
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kip
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a hude problem with maths and science. The weird part is, I understand, intuitivly, insanely deep levels of theoretical physics and such. But I caint do basic algebra. So, all my teachers think I'm lazy. And it's not that I know what I'm talking about, it's like, the knowledge is just... there. I just KNOW it. But doing it? Completly different. |
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sim
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| kip wrote: | | I have a hude problem with maths and science. The weird part is, I understand, intuitivly, insanely deep levels of theoretical physics and such. But I caint do basic algebra. So, all my teachers think I'm lazy. And it's not that I know what I'm talking about, it's like, the knowledge is just... there. I just KNOW it. But doing it? Completly different. |
That's because the heart of physics and math is philosophy. Algebra is only a way of translating it into a workable substance. |
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pakled
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I love science, except when some dunderhead insists on bringing math into it...
I see math as a tool. I'm much more verbally inclined; I just want one way to do a problem that works. I don't need to know 3 ways to do everything (I get enough of that with supporting XP... |
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HurrMark55
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| I never had a problem with math...it was always my strongest subject. I guess if Aspies were surveyed, I would suspect more would have trouble with English than math. When you're doing a math problem, there is always a "right" and "wrong" answer. There isn't a specific solution in other subject matters, and Aspies might have more difficulty arguing what they say. |
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Josie
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Do aspies have a learning disability? |
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| Stealth wrote: | | I was just wondering if any aspies have problems at school. I have a learning disability when it comes to math and english. I can't grasp the concept. |
I have a learning disability. I can't do math.I can a bit!!! Science is ok.
I can't grasp the concept but it is possible to have both As a NVLD |
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RockyMtnAspieMom
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They say it goes along hand-in-hand with NVLD (Non-Verbal Learning Disorder)
To describe it positively, Aspies are visual learners. |
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Space
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| I think AS is called a "non verbal learning disability"... or something like that. |
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kit000003
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| RockyMtnAspieMom wrote: | They say it goes along hand-in-hand with NVLD (Non-Verbal Learning Disorder)
To describe it positively, Aspies are visual learners. |
I always thought of it as aspies are kinesthetic(sp?) learners. We learn by doing. Which would be why math and english is hard for most of us (unless it is a special interest). You can't actually DO something. You just have to learn by rote, which takes forever.
Give me a computer program, set me down with the manual and in an hour or two, maybe three, (depending on how complex the program is) I now have a new skill. lol "oo what does this button do.. ohhhh that's neat. what about this... ooooo." I can then set the manual down and probably tell you things on the program that you didn't know existed. I could come back months later and still be able to use the program.
However, set me down with a list of equations that I have to memorize and be able to recall and use, it would take me weeks to months of use and reuse to get the same level of recall that I can for the program. The issue is, schools only give you about a week in most math classes, before they are on to new material, or building on the old. Then they test you on it about 3 weeks later.
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NVLD is a seperate learning disorder tht many with AS have. |
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Batman1992
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| Stealth wrote: | | When the professor is explaining on how to do something, I just get a blank mind and don't understand it. It's almost like he's speaking a different language. |
I have a really boring professor, he just loves hearing himself talk and goes off on these tangents. The worst part is that I have him for two classes.
I'm a visual learner (I think most Aspies are), so I have to see it done in order to get it. Does your prof. demonstrate how to do the problem?
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Speckles
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High school math made no sense to me - I had to retake grade 12 three times  . Then first year university I get an 86% in calculus and a 90% in probability . It was very confusing, especially because a great deal of grade 12 math STILL doesn`t make any sense for me.
I think it`s because in university they actually connected the math to something logical like proving a theorum, instead of something random like counting beans.  |
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