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Legato Velociraptor


Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Age: 21 Posts: 448 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: Mormonism and Polygamy |
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Mormons are NOT polygamists! I made a short youtube video on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ_4zuumr7c _________________ I feel kind of like House... All I need is someone to think out loud to and bounce ideas off of, even though I never actually listen to your input. |
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| Legato, your YouTube videos prove nothing beyond your own views. There are compounds in the desert where so-called prophets run their sex-cults. That is all I want to know about FLDS. Haven't you been watching CNN? |
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LePetitPrince Phoenix


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Age: 26 Posts: 3107 Location: Beirut , Lebanon
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Biologically, nothing wrong with polygamy ....most species are polygamist and humans are polygamists by nature.
The freaky part I heard about Mormons that old men get married with several little child girls....now that's really freaky. |
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| In the modern world, polygamy simply does not work. We've all seen the disastrous results. Not good at all. |
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oscuria Verbal Guerrilla

Joined: Feb 01, 2008 Posts: 2033
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | In the modern world, polygamy simply does not work. We've all seen the disastrous results. Not good at all. |
What are the disastrous results? The wives fighting each other over who is to make the sandwich? |
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| More like the "wives" being beaten, sexually assaulted, intimidated. The children sexually molested. The whole thing is designed to let men get away with felony assault, rape, terror, and forcible confinement. Polygamy made Warren Jeffs a superstar. |
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Awesomelyglorious Destroyer of worlds, reaver of souls

Joined: Dec 18, 2005 Posts: 5708 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | More like the "wives" being beaten, sexually assaulted, intimidated. The children sexually molested. The whole thing is designed to let men get away with felony assault, rape, terror, and forcible confinement. Polygamy made Warren Jeffs a superstar. |
Whew! It is not as bad as you thought, oscuria! |
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Ragtime Legal Eagle Eye

Joined: Nov 03, 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 7393 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | In the modern world, polygamy simply does not work. We've all seen the disastrous results. Not good at all. |
Who the heck has enough hard c_ck anyway to satisfy several wives?!
Better buy a lifetime subscription to Viagra if you try polygamy.
(And plan to die early, from all the Viagra.) _________________ Anyone who is interested in philosophy, the of meaning of life, and answers to our hardest questions, I suggest you check out the free, online mp3 archive of Ravi Zacharias at www.rzim.org. |
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sojournertruth Toucan


Joined: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 266
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Warren Jeffs' branch of FLDS is particularly nasty. There are other branches of it that allow polygamy, but the wives are at least all adults and consent to any marriages that occur. Jeffs not only was marrying off girls as soon as they hit puberty, but would take men's wives away and give them to someone else like cattle if someone did something that he didn't like. In addition, the sect was ejecting any young men who showed the slightest hint of independence in order to increase the ration of women/men.
Under the Banner of Heaven, by (iirc) Jon Krakauer, makes a sickly fascinating read for anyone interested.
Needless to say, the LDS church does not condone polygamy. It does, however, set up its adherents to believe ridiculous things: to expect god to speak directly to them, and to expect prophets to exist in their own day and age. Most religions offer at least a few absolutely crazy things for their adherents to believe in, but the LDS church offers a bigger package than most. |
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Fred2670 Velociraptor


Joined: Mar 21, 2008 Posts: 419 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | More like the "wives" being beaten, sexually assaulted, intimidated. The children sexually molested. The whole thing is designed to let men get away with felony assault, rape, terror, and forcible confinement. Polygamy made Warren Jeffs a superstar. |
replace "wives" with "alterboys" and
youve just described catholicism _________________ ALT+F4=Life |
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skafather84 Platypus God

Joined: Mar 21, 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 4663 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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that's not entirely true. the mainstream sect of mormonism doesn't practice polygamy but there are many sects that still do.
but what about the magic underwear?
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | replace "wives" with "alterboys" and
youve just described catholicism |
No, it's not the same thing and you know it. We are not discussing the Catholic Church in this thread. |
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Legato, can you explain this magic underewear business? |
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Legato Velociraptor


Joined: Jan 18, 2008 Age: 21 Posts: 448 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Firstly, my mormonism video provided only fact, I steered clear of my opinion as best I could.
Secondly, FLDS have no connection with LDS, they were excommunicated because they are freaks. They don't even think LDS prophets are prophets, they have their own - which completely 100% seperates them from LDS members.
Thirdly, the magic underwear:
When mormons marry, they have a ritual they call being "sealed in the temple", where a man and a woman are joined in marriage for eternity. This is the only way to still be married in heavan and to able to enter the highest kingdom of heavan (the Celestial kingdom), apparently. Part of this ritual inside the temple includes chanting and saying magic words, as well as receiving your eternal name, the one god will call you by.
Another part of this ritual is their garments (magical underwear) which have stitchings on them with certain meanings (the stitiching on the pelvis is for fertility, etc)... When one stops wearing their garments, they have broken their covanent and their temple sealing is null and void. _________________ I feel kind of like House... All I need is someone to think out loud to and bounce ideas off of, even though I never actually listen to your input. |
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slowmutant FAITH HOPE LOVE

Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 6675 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting ...  |
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