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ClosetAspy
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 Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: "I don't care what it takes or who it hurts" |
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So I was in a meeting today and the person running the meeting was on the warpath about her pet projects. During the course of the meeting she looked at all of us and said "I don't care what it takes, or who it hurts, you will get this done on time." I mean, wow, you know, what an attitude, it's always been an unspoken, unwritten rule (here we go with unspoken, unwritten rules again) around the place, but to hear it stated so bluntly . . .
I went back to my desk and thought about that for a long time. You know, it is really rather sad when we as a society have come to that pass where the product is almighty God and who cares what it takes to get it. That is the attitude that allows sweatshops to flourish and jobs to be exported overseas and pollution to go unchecked. I have heard a lot of fundamentalists talk about the Mark of the Beast. Well, I say the Mark is already among us, and that it is entirely appropriate that our coins bear the motto "In God We Trust". We just need to add the word "This" before "God": In This God We Trust. Because you have to have money to live, and in order to get that money you basically have to sell yourself to whatever bidder will have you.
We don't need marks on our hands and foreheads; that's redundant.
I have seen a lot of Bible-bashing on some of these forums, and some of it is indeed justified. But think for a minute: why did the old-time slave masters in the South put so much energy into making sure their slaves did not have access to that particular book? That was the number one reason it was a crime to teach slaves to read and write! Because That Book, regardless of its other flaws, gives people Ideas. It makes them think they are important, that they matter, that they are not machines or cattle to be bossed around. It makes them say No when someone tells them you must get this done no matter what it costs you. Science, on the other hand, doesn't teach that. The slave owners had no problem with their slaves learning about science and technology if it was something that brought benefit to the plantation. They could invent, be creative. But they could not have souls. And neither can we. The corporation won't allow us.
Yes, maybe they should turn us all into machines and be done with it. Humanity is SO overrated. |
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kip
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Joined: Mar 14, 2007
Age: 21
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Location: Las Vegas NV USA
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Yea, thats why I quit my job. Boss wanted me to over charge customers for work we never did, I told him to frak off. And I've been jobless since. |
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AnnieDog
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Location: New England
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes there really is something critical, like a safety issue, that really demands that "fix it now!". The rest of the time, I just wish people would get their priorities straight. If noone is going to die, then it can sit for a few minutes. If your faith helps you keep your own priorities straight then good on you.
I spend a lot of time talking project managers off the ledge. The think that their project is the only one that matters, that their issue is entirely critical, and that it is very complex and difficult to understand. They just get SO wound up.
My happiest PM goes to mass daily, if possible. Most of the time he only makes it 3x a week, but he sneaks out at noontime whenever he can. Maybe his faith keeps him sane. Maybe he was a happy guy already. Dunno.
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krex
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Age: 44
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Location: Village of the Damned
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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A couple things you describe that I can really relate to and have caused me problems in my own jobs.
One is a matter of the "ethics" of exploiting workers...myself or others. It bothers me. I can work really hard and put myself in to a job 100%(yeah, I know, they want 110% but we know that is just really bad math,so...). However, I resent being exploited. I don't like it if it happens to me or someone else because it isn't logical or sane. It's about a companies "greed" and I think at some point we just have to say (or do) something about this for ourselves. believe that it often doesn't effect NT's the same way because they just don't seem to care as much about logic/ethics. They are not las literal and it doesn't bother them to tell the person being unreasonable that "yes, they will do what ever they want them to" and then go ahead and give 50%. Another kind of person will be able to work 80 hours a week because it is worth it to them to have the money to buy some status items...someday. We already work to our full capacity, so some one asking us to work harder is insulting and unreasonable..(I should make myself physically ill, so that some company or stock holder can afford a yacht or my manager can get a raise ?)
Another problem,as mentioned, is ethics. I wont cheat or lie to people for a paycheck. That excludes a large portion of jobs. I have even had problems with this working in social services.....when I speak up for the clients rights,(there seems to be an "us and them" mentallity in the field and I relate more to the "them"), it gets me in a lot of trouble with other staff and management. This is actually one of the hardest things for me and working. Most of my jobs are care-giver to animals and vulnerable people. I hate to see them ignored or taken advantage of...it makes me feel like screaming, (aspies DO have empathy for the vulnerable).
My current job, they will stuff as many dogs in a playroom as is legal according to the company policy,regaurdless of how inhuman or stressful it is for the dogs or staff. If the place will hold 140 dogs, they wont turn any away, even if the animal needs special care that we don't have the time to do when it is that busy...it's all about the "cash". This is a major company nd they alwasy pass inspections because they know weeks in advance and it is never during the "busy times". I wonder how they worked that out? Actually, the whole place is a dysfuntional mess...but as long as the company is in the black...who cares. We are not even allowed to tell the pet parents when their dogs HATE being in the playroom(they pay extra for this)...so the dog is miserable, the staff spends their day trying to protect them from the bully dogs(who they also, never tell the parents not to bring back because they are to aggressive)...it's always about the money. I wish someone from an animals rights group would get a job there and write about it in a national paper. So why do I stay???? Because rent has to get paid and it is very hard for me to find work any where and....at least I (and some of the staff) care about the dogs and try to show them effection, surely better then leaving them only with people who didnt't care?
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tailfins1959
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| krex wrote: | | (yeah, I know, they want 110% but we know that is just really bad math,so...) |
That expression irritates the crap out of me. Think of it this way. Suppose you have an engine that redlines at 6000 RPM. You ask it to "give 110%" and rev it to 6600 RPM. What happens? You get thrown rods, a twisted off crank shaft,a spun bearing, bent valves, etc. Knowing the results asking that of a piece of machinery, anyone who asks for that regards you as less valuable that an easily replaceable piece of machinery!
Or.... Does 110% mean I get to set the project aside for the weekend if I put in 44 hours (instead of 40)?
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ClosetAspy
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Exactly. We are less valuable than a machine. I don't know how many times we have been told not to run certain programs at a certain time or more than say 10 programs on the computer, because it will overload the system. Apparently people can't overload, even NT's. A NT co-worker told me yesterday that the reason she transferred out of my department was that she could not take the strain! And since I can (supposedly) I don't have Aspergers. My boss said as much.
A couple of years I took an Organizational Development class at the local community college and it was very eye-opening. Most of my fellow students were just out of high school with little or no experience in the work world, and I could tell they did not believe what the professor was saying about the reality of the work world. She said, I am going to tell you things that nobody else will tell you. For example she said, let's take a guy named John who always gives 110%. John's a good guy, he's only doing what he has been told he ought to do, but basically he is getting screwed. Why? Well here you have Jerry and Jim who are only doing 50% to 75%. If John starts acting like Jerry and Jim, it is going to look badly for him, because he has already established a standard of 110%. He cannot go down. Jerry and Jim know that and that is why they are not going to increase to 100% because the minute they do, they will have painted themselves in a corner like John. John is what they call an anchor. Whatever he does, the company wins. If he leaves, it is cheaper for them to replace him with two guys, and if he stays they are getting the work of two guys out of one. So the moral of the story is do not establish yourself as an anchor right from the beginning. Now, how one goes about not doing that is a secret I'd like to know, because once you have done so, you have screwed yourself as far as your present company is concerned.
She also was talking about stress and how it "costs" so much. Well, let me tell you a dirty little secret about stress. Stress is really very, very good for a certain segment of the economy, namely the pharmaceutical and health care industries. I make part of my living off of my own and other people's stress. If stress were not so profitable you would bet that there would be more of an effort to reduce it. |
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