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Izaak
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Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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I get mistaken a lot all over the random place. I've been happy and mistaken for angry. I've been frustrated and mistaken for happy. I've been angry and mistaken for apathy. And every colour in between. I've also been told I am "difficult to read" also. I dunno, I don't get other people's faces so I always think people just read into it too much.
The only one you can pretty much guarantee reading is when I am having one of my "joy" moments. Like when I'm playing with my cat, or spinning in a swivel chair, or dancing in the rain etc... My more intellectually enjoyable moments are mistaken (like listening to Mozart, or solving a difficult puzzle), but never my sensory joys.
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Sora
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Age: 20
Posts: 2177
Location: Awesome Europe
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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My emotion - perception of environment
Content - is perceived as anger, fear, anxiety, confusion, nervousness, shyness, frustration and tension - no pattern
Neutrality - often perceived as strong anger, sometimes perceived as disinterest and worry
Anger - occasionally perceived as happiness and/or content, usually as worry and strong anxiety
Sadness - boredom, disinterest
Boredom - no acknowledgement whatsoever
Surprise - no acknowledgement, when I elaborate it's perceived as anxiety or fear though
Tension - worry (which I find to be different from each other)
Fear - no acknowledgement
The interpretation of my mood changes with the people that try to evaluate it.
Most see me as nervous and anxious, which is the worst ever, since I'm the non-anxious autistic type. I'm quite laid-back. (And bored.)
I once met one person who, despite barely knowing me, identified my mood correctly after a short exchange of saying hi to each other. I told her she must be the most empathic person that I have ever met.
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Spacedoubt
Blue Jay
Joined: Apr 20, 2008
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People are always saying to me that they saw me walking down the street and I looked as if I was pondering the fate of the world. They ask me what I was so deep in thought about and why did I look so serious?
When I walk down the street alone, I am deep in thought. Aren't they? What do NTs do? Walk down the street alone and not think? I really want to know. I asked my friend that because she always says the same thing, "Are you OK? I saw you walking down the street today and you looked really serious and mad."
When I asked her, she just laughed.
I don't think that I could even remember to smile as I walk down the street. I am thinking about the world, and beads, and books, and religion.
People often tell me that I look too serious, or mad. Even when I'm enjoying myself. Every day.
Like someone else said, a lot of times people look like they're faking it to me, like they're too exuberant. |
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Zara
Ninja Robot
Joined: Jun 24, 2007
Age: 27
Posts: 1287
Location: Deep Dungeon, VA
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Poll on neurotypical recognition of Autist emotions |
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| Anna wrote: | neutral mislabelled as angry
happy mislabelled as neutral
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Yes, I've had this happen to me before. Sometimes people have mistook my normal demeanor for being angry and confront me about it. Of course that irritates me and then I start feeling angry.
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krex
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Joined: Jun 21, 2006
Age: 44
Posts: 4959
Location: Village of the Damned
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I wrote to the OP in an email but I wanted to share why I think this is an important issue for many of us.
The current diagnosis makes a lot of the fact that people with AS have difficulty reading NT emotions but seldom mention how NT's have the same difficulty reading ours. That causes just as many difficulties for us because they then project false assumptions about us based on how they (miss)read our non-verbals. I actually got fired from a waitressing job in college because I wasn't "smiling" enough  ...I was trying to. Given the current jobs that are in the 'people service" industries, that can put aspies in a financial disadvantage and is a form of discrimination that should be addressed.......I mean, could someone not hire r fire someone because a "stroke" had cause certain muscles to be paralyzed in their faces? Many of us have the same issue with lack of vocal intonations and other non-verbal communication.
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slowmutant
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Joined: Feb 14, 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| qgambit wrote: | | My nt friend told me that it is really hard to tell when I'm happy. |
Maybe it really is hard to tell when you're happy. Who's to say? |
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Paperplate
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Joined: Jan 29, 2008
Age: 33
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Spacedoubt wrote: |
When I walk down the street alone, I am deep in thought. Aren't they? What do NTs do? Walk down the street alone and not think? I really want to know. I asked my friend that because she always says the same thing, "Are you OK? I saw you walking down the street today and you looked really serious and mad."
When I asked her, she just laughed.
I don't think that I could even remember to smile as I walk down the street. I am thinking about the world, and beads, and books, and religion.
People often tell me that I look too serious, or mad. Even when I'm enjoying myself. Every day.
Like someone else said, a lot of times people look like they're faking it to me, like they're too exuberant. |
Jeez, sounds like you might be my twin. I just never look "right" according to people - it's so f@#$% annoying that the comments would immediately change my mood to what they're accusing me of. And that off course proofs that they were right. Everyone on this site always freak out if something smells like NT-bashing but sometimes those fools drive me over the edge.
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bheid
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I spend enough time around people who care to see if my passive facial expressions are faulty, although my active ones are fine.
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qgambit
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Age: 27
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Location: Los Angeles CA
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | qgambit wrote: | | My nt friend told me that it is really hard to tell when I'm happy. |
Maybe it really is hard to tell when you're happy. Who's to say? |
I actually don't disagree with his assessment. |
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Everyone on this site always freak out if something smells like NT-bashing but sometimes those fools drive me over the edge. |
You understand why we freak out, right? Those "fools" probably get pretty annoyed with you, as well. Just try not to disrespect anyone. |
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sinsboldly
Free Range Aspie
Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Age: 57
Posts: 6182
Location: The Emerald Forest
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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I mostly look like I need to pass gas but am politely holding it.
this is my 'neutral'
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MsTriste
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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People have told me various negative things such as being intimidating or angry, when I wasn't feeling that way.
Then there are the people who say "Why don't you ever smile?" |
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Starscream
Snowy Owl
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Age: 22
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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people seem to think i look depressed when i'm netual for some messed up reason
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slowmutant
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| aylissa wrote: | People have told me various negative things such as being intimidating or angry, when I wasn't feeling that way.
Then there are the people who say "Why don't you ever smile?" |
Why don't you ever smile? |
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sinsboldly
Free Range Aspie
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Age: 57
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Location: The Emerald Forest
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| slowmutant wrote: | | aylissa wrote: | People have told me various negative things such as being intimidating or angry, when I wasn't feeling that way.
Then there are the people who say "Why don't you ever smile?" |
Why don't you ever smile? |
my mouth is quite small for the rest of my face. when I "smile" it looks like a sideways D with the flat part under my nose. It is really more of a grimace, as the sides of my mouth do not curve upwards at any time (smiling or not) however I can frown unbelievebly well.
I have had grown men back off when I frown, grown men with a beef with me. I have watched people go white and back up when I just turn around when startled or just not expecting it.
I never understood before I heard about AS. Now I try to 'arrange' my feature to show mild and bland surprise. They can think I am a dummy if they like, but I don't get instant frightened hostility to have to contend with.
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