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skafather84
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| oscuria wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: |
i think the statement we're looking to reach is "religious bastards".
religion is the core problem. these un-evolved individuals who still grasp to their mythical deities and cannot express themselves and come to agreements and so they go back to basically cavemen and do it through force and through violence.
ever notice the more unevolved and violent people are, the more they hold onto religion more closely and shout out how great their god is? |
Yeah, this guy is just waiting to have you slaughtered. |
and his boss too
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techstepgenr8tion
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| LPP, I really hope things resolve to the best of their ability. I know its not much but seriously, that's some real bulls--t going on over there and my hopes are with you. |
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sartresue
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: Hezbollah leader:"War has started, new civil war in Leb |
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When they have finished screwing up in Lebanon, guess what their next step is? 
I hope you can find a bomb-proof shelter that is hidden from these terrorists, LPP. 
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techstepgenr8tion
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Fred2670 wrote: | Too bad Obama isnt President yet..
He could go over and talk to these guys.
Wheres Jimmy Carter when we need him? |
Well, in those terms better Jimmy Carter than Obama. There's a BIG qualitative difference between being an infidel and being an apostate; Carter could go to the middle east, talk to Shiite leaders, and come back breathing. My own take though in the end - Lebanon will have trouble squashing the beef on its own due to military being divided in allegiance but I still think giving in to Hezbollah's demands of their own private phone network and such would have been a terrible idea. |
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skafather84
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just more and more evidence of how worthless religion is.
either that or how devolved people are who grasp so tightly to religion. |
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techstepgenr8tion
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| skafather84 wrote: | just more and more evidence of how worthless religion is.
either that or how devolved people are who grasp so tightly to religion. |
I think our biggest struggle as a race, in the centuries to come, will be defining ethics in a way to where we can have them - regardless of religion - and have people be civilly responsible. Atheism seems like its something that some people can handle, many more can't without looking at it as a "I can get away with anything" free card. Right now though, in society's, its a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't kind of scenario. The biggest mistake of course is when religion invades government and especially when religion is written into the laws; as it has done in much of the middle east and its really attempting to do more so in Lebanon. I'll admit, I'm an agnostic myself though, I see nothing wrong with people having religion in their lives as long as they keep it within their own spheres and it doesn't involved enforcing their religious law globally. |
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skafather84
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | just more and more evidence of how worthless religion is.
either that or how devolved people are who grasp so tightly to religion. |
I think our biggest struggle as a race, in the centuries to come, will be defining ethics in a way to where we can have them - regardless of religion - and have people be civilly responsible. Atheism seems like its something that some people can handle, many more can't without looking at it as a "I can get away with anything" free card. Right now though, in society's, its a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't kind of scenario. The biggest mistake of course is when religion invades government and especially when religion is written into the laws; as it has done in much of the middle east and its really attempting to do more so in Lebanon. I'll admit, I'm an agnostic myself though, I see nothing wrong with people having religion in their lives as long as they keep it within their own spheres and it doesn't involved enforcing their religious law globally. |
it's becoming more and more difficult for people to separate the two. a lot of that is thanks to the media and their injection of god into everything or making a controversy out of everything. but moreso, it's the consumers of such media's fault for encouraging such intellectually empty garbage and for believing it without the smallest inkling of effort to try and discern if the information being given out is correct or if it's even information or rather just a way to create inflammatory arguments over things that are, in the board scheme of things, worthless.
i'd love to wrap it up and blame it all on religion but it isn't that easy...people are just brainwashed cattle who watch too much tv, are too intellectually lazy, and are mostly worthless on any kind of cognitive level. but at least the atheist/agnostic cattle don't try and legislate their god on the world. |
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oscuria
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| skafather84 wrote: |
i'd love to wrap it up and blame it all on religion but it isn't that easy...people are just brainwashed cattle who watch too much tv, are too intellectually lazy, and are mostly worthless on any kind of cognitive level. but at least the atheist/agnostic cattle don't try and legislate their god on the world. |
Of course not, they try to force their intolerance on the religious. Don't try to make it seem that an atheistic society is or would be any better. |
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skafather84
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| oscuria wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: |
i'd love to wrap it up and blame it all on religion but it isn't that easy...people are just brainwashed cattle who watch too much tv, are too intellectually lazy, and are mostly worthless on any kind of cognitive level. but at least the atheist/agnostic cattle don't try and legislate their god on the world. |
Of course not, they try to force their intolerance on the religious. Don't try to make it seem that an atheistic society is or would be any better. |
it wouldn't be much better because like i said...it's that society is mentally lazy. the only thing i could see as a benefit would be that dogmatic religious laws wouldn't exist anymore and there might be a little more open debate on such matters like intelligent design if it weren't for the interference of christian groups who simply look to protect what they know to be fact from their religion instead of looking for real answers. which i realize i may have lost the point in that long sentence...i'll try to sum up: we wouldn't be debating evolution right now but rather debating the paths taken in evolution and be debating the best way to go about harvesting and utilizing stem cells and simply just an outright rejection of such science like the pope decreed a couple months ago (he said any kind of genetic manipulation is a sin, including gene therapy and therapeutic cloning). that second try still ended up being long...well that's just because it is such a complex situation....but in some ways, i feel many sects of religions only serve to exacerbate problems and delay progress rather than assisting in the move forward. but at the same time, i recognize that many people need such a thing to help them cope.
aside: how come there's no vice tax on that vice? (meaning reliance on faith based institutions) |
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techstepgenr8tion
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| skafather84 wrote: |
it's becoming more and more difficult for people to separate the two. a lot of that is thanks to the media and their injection of god into everything or making a controversy out of everything. but moreso, it's the consumers of such media's fault for encouraging such intellectually empty garbage and for believing it without the smallest inkling of effort to try and discern if the information being given out is correct or if it's even information or rather just a way to create inflammatory arguments over things that are, in the board scheme of things, worthless. |
I think the problem is its all served with a stinking and heaping load of personal agenda. I really feel bad for intelligent and well thought-out liberals at this point just because a lot of the leadership really pushes for personal responsibility to be replaced with government where at all possible and part of proving that capitalism work is almost contriving or excaberating class or race situations (and of course selling the paper, per the advertisers who really are what keeps the paper alive, does push just by its nature for Jerry Springer topics for cover stories). Of course, yes, I felt pretty sick to my stomach when a few people I talked to in the primaries said something like "I couldn't vote for anyone who won't put their hand on the bible" - I guess its a pretty discouraging world on both sides at least, just varies in degrees in terms of what issues we take as most salient.
| skafather84 wrote: | | i'd love to wrap it up and blame it all on religion but it isn't that easy...people are just brainwashed cattle who watch too much tv, are too intellectually lazy, and are mostly worthless on any kind of cognitive level. but at least the atheist/agnostic cattle don't try and legislate their god on the world. |
While all human beings definitely aren't all equal and our intelligence (for those of us who have it) is a blessing and a curse, the curse really is learning fast and having our hands grabbed and forced onto the hot stove just because where the common denominator folks go we're all stuck traveling as well. I think I at least understand why religion was enforced so much centuries ago - the common denominator people of the world need to be told what to do and anything in lieu of that has them destroying everyone else's world out of wreckless selfishness and animal behavior rather then propaghanda-laden zeal. We're seeing some of that sort of unraveling here in the states IMO (the middle east of course being an all together different situation). Not saying we should push the less intellectually endowed back toward religion necessarily as its just as unhealthy in the end but - there has to be something that has a positive outcome... |
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LePetitPrince
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| Quote: | Tension mounted on yesterday's second day of talks between rival Lebanese leaders trying to end a feud that pushed their country towards all-out sectarian war, as politicians traded charges over the divisive issue of Hizbollah arms.
The Qatari hosts of the Arab-brokered talks defused a clash over the weaponry of the powerful Syria and Iran-backed Shi'ite militia by offering to come up with a proposal on the issue as the negotiators focused on other matters.
Lebanon's rival factions agreed to talk to try to resolve a protracted political impasse which erupted into deadly sectarian fighting and saw Hizbollah and its allies temporarily seize swathes of west Beirut.
But after a virtual blackout on the progress of side talks taking place behind closed doors, several leading delegates made conflicting public statements, and Qatar's Amir Shaikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani stepped in yesterday, meeting representatives of both sides.
The head of the Hizbollah delegation, MP Mohammed Raad, seemingly provoked the parliamentary majority by saying in televised remarks that "the issue of the resistance, its arms and capabilities is not up for discussion in Doha."
Pro-government delegates hit back.
"If the arms issue is not specifically addressed... then there will be nothing" achieved, Youth and Sports Minister Ahmad Fatfat said.
"The issue of weapons is crucial. The Lebanese people will not accept anything less than the announcement of a clear framework to address this matter, so the debate can continue in Beirut," he said. |
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=217870&Sn=WORL&IssueID=31060 |
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