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ManErg
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| gypsyRN wrote: | | I can't just sit there, struggling to making eye contact, make a random off-handed comment about an obscure foreign film, how I prefer spiral macaroni to elbow, and then begin pontificating on the evolutionary divergence of the human species. That poor guy is going to RUN, not walk, away from me. |
Not all guys would run from you! I'd be delighted to discuss the subjects you mention, for example, much more than the usual small talk tedium. The question is whether any guy you're actually interested in would stay.
Seems odd to me that you have to pretend to be 'other' than you really are to attract someone. Then over time introduce them to the real you. Surely this is a recipe for attracting the wrong person in the first place? I've been there too. So convinced I had to hide my true self, I eventually forgot what it was. And then I found when I couldn't put on the act anymore, I was with totally the wrong person.
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gypsyRN
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| ManErg wrote: | | gypsyRN wrote: | | I can't just sit there, struggling to making eye contact, make a random off-handed comment about an obscure foreign film, how I prefer spiral macaroni to elbow, and then begin pontificating on the evolutionary divergence of the human species. That poor guy is going to RUN, not walk, away from me. |
Not all guys would run from you! I'd be delighted to discuss the subjects you mention, for example, much more than the usual small talk tedium. The question is whether any guy you're actually interested in would stay.
Seems odd to me that you have to pretend to be 'other' than you really are to attract someone. Then over time introduce them to the real you. Surely this is a recipe for attracting the wrong person in the first place? I've been there too. So convinced I had to hide my true self, I eventually forgot what it was. And then I found when I couldn't put on the act anymore, I was with totally the wrong person. |
Yeah, well...too bad you're across the pond. |
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LePetitPrince
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| MissConstrue wrote: | | I just wanna know if this Love and Dating site is exclusively for males. It seems like there are more males posting in this forum than females. I'm not saying all guys in this forum do it, but the stacks look pretty high and I've been on WP for quite a while. |
it's because there are much more single male aspies than female single aspies. No one is forbidding the girls to post in the section. |
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MissConstrue
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Gottcha! 
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LePetitPrince
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| MissConstrue wrote: | | Gottcha! |
...then why you were asking since you know the reason? are you trying to tell us that you are a single available girl? :O
hmmm....wanna date me? (since you are the only available single 20s female in the jungle here and not because you are something) |
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MissConstrue
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What makes you think I knew the reason already? 
As for dating, sounds flattering but I'm not in the mood to argue with a raving mad prince who bestows a hint of pride and prejudice? 
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LePetitPrince
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| ^^ aww you've broke my heart |
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MissConstrue
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^Well, you know what they say, absence makes the heart grow fonder.......
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LePetitPrince
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| ^^you are Mistress Yoda? :O |
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MissConstrue
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I don't know if I want to know who this Mistress Yoda is.
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F-16
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| Skimmed through that "Cocky-Funny" and "IOI" stuff, seems overwhelming. Is it? |
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sibilation
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: expand your vocab |
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I don't know if someone already covered this point because I haven't read through the entire thread, but my advice to DataSage is that next time, rather than trying to change the bad rep of a word like alpha-male, you USE A DIFFERENT WORD.
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MissConstrue
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| LePetitPrince wrote: | from another thread:
| Quote: | ^^ the other way around won't be in your favor in you are an omega/beta male , letting girls to approach first will lead to the same natural selection rules that are already applied.
Let's face the truth guys , we are under the mercy of the girls' choice , this is a basic nature and there's no way to change it unless inf your want to change your society into an arrangedmarriage-based society or to a retard masculine dominated society like the fanatic Islamic societies and treat women as a furniture.
As long that you live in a free society where dating is free then you'll still be under the mercy of serial monogamy rules==> the mercy of women's choice.
In serial monogamy system , guys ask out girls , the girl keeps rejecting guys till she is asked by the most 'suitable' guy.
So serial monogamy rules are very similar to the natural polygamy rules (not the islamic polygamy!): Females are the main players of the natural selection --> females are the ones who pick the males that most "fit" them (most fit them = that can provide best genes and security).
Nagging, whining , and revolutions will solve nothing ......if you are naturally an omega/beta guy then the best thing you can do is improving yourself , by improving yourself you became a better competitor and you increase somehow your chances to get a girl.
For a better help ,note that there are basically FOUR types of Alpha males in the current human society:
-The Knight (Strength): These are basically the pure natural alphas , the men with high level of Testosterone , the strong, tall , determinant , confident , masculine and handsome men. If you are not already one of those , it will be almost impossible to become one. A strong sport man who can achieve big wins can becomes a King/Knight (ie: the best footballers).This type of alpha might fade with age or can transform to the King type
-The King (Wealth/Social Power): The Kings are the successful men who can turn their success into great wealth and social power, this type of Alpha requires also some basic natural alpha traits found in the Knight-type like confidence and determination (ie.CEOs, great businessmen...etc) ...good physical traits might help too , it also requires mainly traits such as leadership, common sense, courage and good social skills. It is not impossible for Aspies to be one of those but keep in mind that without good-developed natural skills such as social skills and leadership that won't be easy at all.
-The Magician (High Intelligence): Naturally,this is the least attractive Alpha type to most females but they are alphas nonetheless and can attract 10% of females at least. The Magicians are the men who can achieve great things using their high intelligence ,education , great knowledge or great wisdom , the requirement for this type is one : High IQ/Intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill(rare cases). The Magician doesn't need to be physically strong, confident or leader or any of that sort ....he just needs to be very smart in his field he works in. A Magician who can turns his achievements to success and wealth can becomes a Magician-King (ie. Bill Gates). Aspies with high intelligence should choose this path to Alphahood but if you don't naturally have a very high IQ (above 130)/intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill this would be almost impossible.
(Even a physically handicapped very genius man such as Steven hawking can be considered as a Magician alpha because his natural high intelligence compensates all the other bad genes ..but of course this case is very very exceptional.)
- The Bard (Talent/Fame): The Bards are the people who get fame through their high talents ie: good singers, cool hardrockers,Hollywood actors, good musicians, excellent painters...
The Bards are the MOST attractive Alpha-type to females nowadays , they can harvest thousands of females' hearts.
Since fame brings wealth and since fame requires sometimes attractive looks then Bards are usually in combo forms mostly as Bard/King or sometimes in Bard/King/Knight , Bard/King/Magician exist but are rare cases (ie. like the savant pianist kids that can even compete adult pianists....will be Bard/King/Magician when they become adults).
Aspie can becomes a bard ....but of course he needs to have great talents.
There are the same types of alphas among females ....but here we are talking about competition between males which is much rougher than the competition between females (competition between females is caused by the artificial monogamous marriage system). |
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Oh I see what this is about. In that case, I think I'd go either for the Magician or the Bard. Don't find the big and buff all that attractive.
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jawbrodt
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| LePetitPrince wrote: | from another thread:
| Quote: | ^^ the other way around won't be in your favor in you are an omega/beta male , letting girls to approach first will lead to the same natural selection rules that are already applied.
Let's face the truth guys , we are under the mercy of the girls' choice , this is a basic nature and there's no way to change it unless inf your want to change your society into an arrangedmarriage-based society or to a retard masculine dominated society like the fanatic Islamic societies and treat women as a furniture.
As long that you live in a free society where dating is free then you'll still be under the mercy of serial monogamy rules==> the mercy of women's choice.
In serial monogamy system , guys ask out girls , the girl keeps rejecting guys till she is asked by the most 'suitable' guy.
So serial monogamy rules are very similar to the natural polygamy rules (not the islamic polygamy!): Females are the main players of the natural selection --> females are the ones who pick the males that most "fit" them (most fit them = that can provide best genes and security).
Nagging, whining , and revolutions will solve nothing ......if you are naturally an omega/beta guy then the best thing you can do is improving yourself , by improving yourself you became a better competitor and you increase somehow your chances to get a girl.
For a better help ,note that there are basically FOUR types of Alpha males in the current human society:
-The Knight (Strength): These are basically the pure natural alphas , the men with high level of Testosterone , the strong, tall , determinant , confident , masculine and handsome men. If you are not already one of those , it will be almost impossible to become one. A strong sport man who can achieve big wins can becomes a King/Knight (ie: the best footballers).This type of alpha might fade with age or can transform to the King type
-The King (Wealth/Social Power): The Kings are the successful men who can turn their success into great wealth and social power, this type of Alpha requires also some basic natural alpha traits found in the Knight-type like confidence and determination (ie.CEOs, great businessmen...etc) ...good physical traits might help too , it also requires mainly traits such as leadership, common sense, courage and good social skills. It is not impossible for Aspies to be one of those but keep in mind that without good-developed natural skills such as social skills and leadership that won't be easy at all.
-The Magician (High Intelligence): Naturally,this is the least attractive Alpha type to most females but they are alphas nonetheless and can attract 10% of females at least. The Magicians are the men who can achieve great things using their high intelligence ,education , great knowledge or great wisdom , the requirement for this type is one : High IQ/Intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill(rare cases). The Magician doesn't need to be physically strong, confident or leader or any of that sort ....he just needs to be very smart in his field he works in. A Magician who can turns his achievements to success and wealth can becomes a Magician-King (ie. Bill Gates). Aspies with high intelligence should choose this path to Alphahood but if you don't naturally have a very high IQ (above 130)/intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill this would be almost impossible.
(Even a physically handicapped very genius man such as Steven hawking can be considered as a Magician alpha because his natural high intelligence compensates all the other bad genes ..but of course this case is very very exceptional.)
- The Bard (Talent/Fame): The Bards are the people who get fame through their high talents ie: good singers, cool hardrockers,Hollywood actors, good musicians, excellent painters...
The Bards are the MOST attractive Alpha-type to females nowadays , they can harvest thousands of females' hearts.
Since fame brings wealth and since fame requires sometimes attractive looks then Bards are usually in combo forms mostly as Bard/King or sometimes in Bard/King/Knight , Bard/King/Magician exist but are rare cases (ie. like the savant pianist kids that can even compete adult pianists....will be Bard/King/Magician when they become adults).
Aspie can becomes a bard ....but of course he needs to have great talents.
There are the same types of alphas among females ....but here we are talking about competition between males which is much rougher than the competition between females (competition between females is caused by the artificial monogamous marriage system). |
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I guess that would put me at, 55% magician/45% knight. I can deal with that. 
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CRACK
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| Mystic wrote: | | CRACK wrote: | | I understand that its important to "be yourself" when seeking out a relationship. But what if "being yourself" means never initiating conversation and replying in mostly one word answers? |
If you just don't see the point of human interaction (aka random conversations), you force yourself to see that you can learn a lot of stuff you wouldn't normally just by not replying with one word answers (if you like learning new things), or see that you can experience feelings you wouldn't expect talking about the random things the conversation turns to (and the girl you should try to date will be the one to keep you laughing or entertained). |
Guess I'm not interested in learning new things. Or things about people. Two times, I went out somewhere with this co-worker on lunch break because she sort of asked me out and I couldn't initiate anything for the life of me because, frankly, I wasn't interested in knowing anything about her. And I feel the same apathy for...everyone.
You know what, nevermind. I know what I'm about now. I'm not interested in spending quality time with anyone. I only lust over a few females here and there. And that is about as far as it goes. Guess I'll just look for a f***-buddy or hire an escort some day, and find the opportunity to enjoy a session of really loud and rough bling bling. Maybe some day I will see the merit of a meaningful relationship. But it doesn't look like it is soon. |
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