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Kris94 Toucan


Joined: Jun 01, 2007 Age: 14 Posts: 270 Location: north-east of England
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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my teacher said i was 'defective' in front of the class once.
I got really upset and cried later.
i was only 7 at the time though. _________________
BTW the south park guy is me |
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velodog Gold Supporter


Joined: Mar 16, 2008 Posts: 1086 Location: North of SF Bay Area
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Sora wrote: | Disability - the social construct of disability, not an attribute of the individual.
But I do use disorder in 'ASD' for 'autism/autistic spectrum disorder'. For a lack of a better word. |
Putting aside my general disdain for Sociology (sorry nominalist) I do believe that the term disability is best reserved for legal purposes. I generally agree with this post. Is there a particular reason an alternative word you would use has to start with a "D" Lau? |
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velodog Gold Supporter


Joined: Mar 16, 2008 Posts: 1086 Location: North of SF Bay Area
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Kris94 wrote: | my teacher said i was 'defective' in front of the class once.
I got really upset and cried later.
i was only 7 at the time though. |
That is a very crass way to treat a young child. My first post in this thread was the day before my Diagnosis. |
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richie Ye Olde Bookwyrme


Joined: Jan 10, 2007 Age: 49 Posts: 8430 Location: Lake Whoop-Dee-Doo, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I voted for different, my slowness and clumsiness only become an issue if I am in situations that require some sort of
physical excellence. My social ineptitude only becomes an issue if I'm in certain situations that require diplomacy, tact or
some form of social skill. I have managed to survive and prosper somewhat without getting into situations that require
physical or social excellence. _________________ Autie was I ere I saw Eitua |
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JerryHatake Kumdo Practitioner

Joined: Jul 02, 2006 Age: 20 Posts: 7299 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah different here because I used that on myself a bit. _________________ Jerry
"No one is the same you can't compare yourself to other people because everyone is different" - Michelle
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bookwormde Raven


Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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The one I would have voted for is not on the list, “discrimination”
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Claradoon Phoenix


Joined: Aug 24, 2006 Posts: 1277 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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I would have said 'difference' but I like 'distinction' better. It conveys a truth about Asperger's - different and good, both. _________________ Claradoon
http://www.ptsdinfo.net
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normally_impaired Tufted Titmouse


Joined: Mar 20, 2007 Age: 26 Posts: 34
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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I never liked the words "disability" and "disorder", although I could see how at times "disability" could be used to describe Asperger's, there aren't many things I am completely unable to do as a result of it. I also have Tourette's Syndrome, and there isn't one single thing that I am completely unable to do as a result of it, so I don't call that a disability at all.
As for Disorder, I can't stand that term. "Dis" meaning "without", disorder means essentially the same as "Out of order", like a broken vending machine. Does AS mean that my brain is broken since it is not in order? I don't think so.
I also have ADD, which stands for "Attention Deficit Disorder", Attention Deficit means "without attention", or more literally "can't pay attention", so it's out of order. Essentially, the way that sounds, I would almost say that a vending machine with a broken selection button has ADD since it can't pay attention to your input and is thus out of order. |
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deathchibi anime freak of nature!!!!

Joined: Oct 17, 2007 Age: 107 Posts: 5776 Location: earth
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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disease is the most wrong one.
and i have to find books about asperger/autism in the
"diseases" section in my "public library" and that would
give people the wrong ideas on us.  _________________ I shall rule the world with an iron spork!!!!
me fail english! thats unpossible!
4th sin: sloth |
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kraken Tufted Titmouse


Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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The World Health Organization defined disability in 1976 as,
“an existing difficulty in performing one or more activities which, in accordance with a person’s age, sex, and normative social role, are generally accepted as essential components of daily living, such as self-care, social relations, and economic activity"
I think the key phrase here is 'normative social role'. Given that part of an Asperger's diagnosis is clinically significant social impairment, I suspect that disability is the best word to use here. Asperger's is also linked to higher risk for depression and anxiety, if I am recalling correctly, which is consistent with research findings for physical disability.
I think it's important to keep in mind that disability is not in this context suggesting an inability to function, but rather greater difficulty in doing so that would be normatively expected. These very difficulties constitute many of the topics for discussion on this board, do they not?
Oh, and three cheers for sociology!  |
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kraken Tufted Titmouse


Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| velodog wrote: | | Kris94 wrote: | my teacher said i was 'defective' in front of the class once.
I got really upset and cried later.
i was only 7 at the time though. |
That is a very crass way to treat a young child. My first post in this thread was the day before my Diagnosis. |
Agreed there. There's no excuse for treating any child in this fashion. Ever. |
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Lene Deinonychus


Joined: Nov 28, 2007 Posts: 347 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I chose 'deviant' (because I like the word). If I had to add my own label, I'd make it 'delightfully deranged'...  |
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Hector Velociraptor


Joined: Mar 11, 2008 Posts: 454
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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debility - too serious a word for the great majority of people with an AS diagnosis
deviance - makes me feel like such a rebel for something I had no control over. When people refer to homosexuals as "sexual deviants" I think there's a manipulative undercurrent at work that masks the real story. Similarly with people who are born with AS, which is everyone with AS
difference - doesn't serve to explain what makes me different
disease - misleading for a few obvious reasons
distinction - makes it seem like I should get some award for having AS. Flattering, but not terribly honest
disturbance - strikes me as being the consequence of a traumatic event, which is untrue
deficiency/disability/disorder/dysfunction - maybe |
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hyper_alien why?

Joined: Apr 19, 2006 Age: 20 Posts: 1047 Location: In the arms of me lover
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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i call it a disability caus it is. _________________ Me. |
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earthmonkey Toucan


Joined: Jun 06, 2005 Age: 18 Posts: 263
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: |
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I voted disability, but it is also a difference, so ideally I would've voted for both. There are those on the spectrum who don't consider themselves disabled based upon honest perception of themselves, so difference seems more widely applicable. But, disability is particularly descriptive of the kinds of issues we face in the society at large. _________________ "Public transportation is for jerks and lesbians." --Homer Simpson |
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