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Aspergers means no language delay.Autism means there is a languge delay.Am i right?
What if a person started talking normally, but then stopped.And when he started again, he just spelt things out loud?
would this be a more aspergers or autism thing? or maybe something else completly?
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Probably aspergian... but it sounds like you're trying to cut clearly something which is not meant to be clear-cut.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think that an interruption is considered a delay. Someone who knows more than me should be along soon to clear this up. |
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Sounds like autism to me. Quite a few people with Kanner autism seem to start speaking, then stop, then start again later - sometimes in a strange and unconventional way. This may be one of the reasons why people associate autism with the MMR - kid starts talking, gets MMR, and then stops. It's a coincidence, but the parents don't always see it that way.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: Re: I have a question. |
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| demoluca wrote: | Aspergers means no language delay.Autism means there is a languge delay.Am i right?
What if a person started talking normally, but then stopped.And when he started again, he just spelt things out loud?
would this be a more aspergers or autism thing? or maybe something else completly? |
if it stopped quite late in child hood,it could be landau kleffner rather than autism or as [many see LK as being on the autism spectrum] or CDD if the speech/language was not the only thing to be affected.
seizures can cause brain damage and brain damage can also cause speech/language loss.
it could also be selective mutism.
there's a lot of other causes for speech/language loss.
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It's not kanners autism.
He is my older brother (now 19) who also is on the spectrum.
He talks normal now, but back when he was 2-3 he would spell things (yes he could read).
I'm just wondering if anyone knows what this is or if they've done anything similar?
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| demoluca wrote: | It's not kanners autism.
He is my older brother (now 19) who also is on the spectrum.
He talks normal now, but back when he was 2-3 he would spell things (yes he could read).
I'm just wondering if anyone knows what this is or if they've done anything similar? |
I can't answer your question but does he really like reading now? I recall when I fisrt made the "group of symbols = thing" and used to love to spell thiings out. Maybe a type of learning process, reinforcing new learned skill and enjoying using it.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: I have a question. |
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I vote for classical autism.
I've just recently had a conversation that it is typical for autistic children to develop speech and then lose the already developed speech. That must all be before age... 3?
AS is usually defined as using language adequately between ages 2 and 3.
demoluca: Do you mean your brother could spell words before he had age-appropriate speech? Have you looked into a thing called 'hyperlexia' yet?
I'll check for an article in a sec and post it, if I still have it. (I'm not sure I can find it again?)
Edit: Not sure how reliable this article is. http://www.hyperlexia.org/hyperlexia.html
I'm not sure whether it mentions, but AS/classical seem possibly comorbid to hyperlexia.
But I think if your brother lost language it could be classical (kanner's) by definiton. Or, if a professional would think he's too hf or too atypical or too whatever to fit kanner's or AS, then maybe he could have PDD-NOS. (If this diagnosis exists where you live.)
But in the end I'm so not a professional of course.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: I have a question. |
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| Sora wrote: | I vote for classical autism.
I've just recently had a conversation that it is typical for autistic children to develop speech and then lose the already developed speech. That must all be before age... 3?
AS is usually defined as using language adequately between ages 2 and 3.
demoluca: Do you mean your brother could spell words before he had age-appropriate speech? Have you looked into a thing called 'hyperlexia' yet?
I'll check for an article in a sec and post it, if I still have it. (I'm not sure I can find it again?)
Edit: Not sure how reliable this article is. http://www.hyperlexia.org/hyperlexia.html
I'm not sure whether it mentions, but AS/classical seem possibly comorbid to hyperlexia.
But I think if your brother lost language it could be classical (kanner's) by definiton. Or, if a professional would think he's too hf or too atypical or too whatever to fit kanner's or AS, then maybe he could have PDD-NOS. (If this diagnosis exists where you live.)
But in the end I'm so not a professional of course. |
He started babbling and talking normal, stopped for a year when my dad went up north, and started again when my dad came back, only he kept spelling things.
He reads now.And he talks.He's pretty 'normal'.
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What if the child had hearing loss, so they stopped talking when they were a year and a half and then they got tubes put in their ears and they were speech delayed because they had been deaf for so long even though it had only been nine months?
Would you still say autism or AS?
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | What if the child had hearing loss, so they stopped talking when they were a year and a half and then they got tubes put in their ears and they were speech delayed because they had been deaf for so long even though it had only been nine months?
Would you still say autism or AS? |
um....probably not.But he was never deaf so....i dunno.
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Oh we were talking about someone? I thought we were talking about a fake person as a what if. So I used myself as an example.
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | Oh we were talking about someone? I thought we were talking about a fake person as a what if. So I used myself as an example. |
Oh.
well then.
I still say no.>-<
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| demoluca wrote: | | Spokane_Girl wrote: | | Oh we were talking about someone? I thought we were talking about a fake person as a what if. So I used myself as an example. |
Oh.
well then.
I still say no.>-< |
Oh so I must not be on the stepctrum then. Better sue the hospital.
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | demoluca wrote: | | Spokane_Girl wrote: | | Oh we were talking about someone? I thought we were talking about a fake person as a what if. So I used myself as an example. |
Oh.
well then.
I still say no.>-< |
Oh so I must not be on the stepctrum then. Better sue the hospital. |
Or you could be on the spectrum and the deafness could be a mighty sick and un-fortunate coincidence.
..Or not.
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