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oscuria
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| Quatermass wrote: | oscuria, why don't you look at it this way. The more gays there are, the less competition there are for women.
Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if you were part of Fred Phelps' little gang. |
Second part first: I am not going to insult you because you aren't quite learned on my positions or beliefs, but assigning me as being a partner to his group is a STREEEEEEETCH.
I have made this point very clear before: I am not a Christian. There is nothing Christian about me except for the love of Jesus' words. However, I am a Conservative who values tradition
(though obviously not all tradition). Oh, and there is nothing religious about Phelps. Anyone who considers his group religious is an idiot.
First part second: There will also be more lesbians around.
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thanks for answering my question on the maturity issue. |
I wasn't aware it was a serious question.
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Oscuria needs to be forced to take a sociology of gender class and learn the difference between biological sex and gender identity, to confuse the two is to commit the fallacy of essentialism.
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | First part second: There will also be more lesbians around. |
Try bisexuality, it gives you a wide range of options.
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oscuria
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| Odin wrote: | | Oscuria needs to be forced to take a sociology of gender class and learn the difference between biological sex and gender identity, to confuse the two is to commit the fallacy of essentialism. |
Yes, I am sure I will see the light after taking such a course. I will begin to cook, do the laundry, and listen to Cher. I'll pack up on Schick razors. Gender is a social construct!
To me there is no difference. Everything else is liberal jargon. Unless you happen to be a Hijra.
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Try bisexuality, it gives you a wide range of options. |
That would be perversion. How insightful your character is.
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| oscuria wrote: | | Yes, I am sure I will see the light after taking such a course. I will begin to cook, do the laundry, and listen to Cher. I'll pack up on Schick razors. Gender is a social construct! |
I don't quite understand, you don't believe gender is a social construct or do you believe it is?
and what do you mean by: "begin to cook, do the laundry, etc" it looks like you were implying those were not meant for men, sorry if I misunderstood if its not the case.
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| greenblue wrote: |
Try bisexuality, it gives you a wide range of options. |
That would be perversion. How insightful your character is. |
1. Joking, I don't think one can easily change their sexual orientation just like that.
2. Why would that be perversion?
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oscuria
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| greenblue wrote: |
I don't quite understand, you don't believe gender is a social construct or do you believe it is?
and what do you mean by: "begin to cook, do the laundry, etc" it looks like you were implying those were not meant for men, sorry if I misunderstood if its not the case.
1. Joking, I don't think one can easily change their sexual orientation just like that.
2. Why would that be perversion? |
1) I was being sarcastic. Joke joke, laugh laugh.
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a: Tell that to the women who say "I'm tired of men!"
b: Well, I would think it'd be perverse if after not finding a woman I go find me. What happens if I don't find any men? 
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After being married and divorced twice, both of which were incredibly traumatizing, I have a different view of marriage. It seems to ruin good relationships. I am lucky in that I live in a state that legalizes domestic partnership for things such as health insurance, so my domestic partner of 5 years has full insurance thanks to my job. We are heterosexual, and I applaud states that recognize domestic partnerships regardless of the sexes of the partners.
The only reason I can see for getting married is so that you can be "next of kin" in the event of a medical emergency. |
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oscuria
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The only reason I can see for getting married is so that you can be "next of kin" in the event of a medical emergency. |
That issue should then be addressed and petitioned to allow, when proof is given to a couple that has been monogamous, such an act to occur.
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| oscuria wrote: | | aylissa wrote: |
The only reason I can see for getting married is so that you can be "next of kin" in the event of a medical emergency. |
That issue should then be addressed and petitioned to allow, when proof is given to a couple that has been monogamous, such an act to occur. |
you mean like a marriage license? |
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oscuria
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| skafather84 wrote: |
you mean like a marriage license? |
Absolutely not.
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Are you even married oscuria?
You seem so obsessed with these threads on marriages espeacially the gay ones.
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oscuria
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| MissConstrue wrote: | Are you even married oscuria?
You seem so obsessed with these threads on marriages espeacially the gay ones. |
Well, would it matter?
I don't see why I shouldn't be able to post on these threads. They're meant for discussions.
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Yes you have every right to but........that's a lot of discussion on marriage, don't you think?
I don't see a point in your issues. They just go on and on.
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My sister's gay and married.
She is one of the nicest people I know, and I'm so glad I got to be there on her special day.
I think it's wrong to rob people of marriage if they want to. For me, it's like saying every guy who's name starts with J can't get married because it's precieved to be a sissy name or something like that.
My sister is a wonderful person, before and after I found out she was gay.
Also, for transgenders, I have to disagree with you oscuria. I personally think that they should NEVER go to jail, and although help from a therapist might help make their decision on whether to change their gender, I don't think we should force them into making an opinion that could be extremely harmful to them in the long run.
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| oscuria wrote: | | Odin wrote: | | Oscuria needs to be forced to take a sociology of gender class and learn the difference between biological sex and gender identity, to confuse the two is to commit the fallacy of essentialism. |
Yes, I am sure I will see the light after taking such a course. I will begin to cook, do the laundry, and listen to Cher. I'll pack up on Schick razors. Gender is a social construct!
To me there is no difference. Everything else is liberal jargon. Unless you happen to be a Hijra. |
Just because someone is BIOLOGICALLY a certain sex doesn't mean they are that sex NEUROLOGICALLY. That is what I'm trying to say. Some hormonal fluctuation during pregnancy could cause the body to develop one way and the brain to develop the other way.
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