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Stimshieme
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seriously people AS IS NOT A LEARNING DISABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That being said Einstein was (theorised to be) an Aspie. I just suspect that some of you are lazy because math is supposed to a good "trait"...
What are having problems with people?
Practice, practice, practice, practive makes perfect! practice makes perfect!, practice makes perfect!
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MysticSong
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Stimshieme wrote: | seriously people AS IS NOT A LEARNING DISABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That being said Einstein was (theorised to be) an Aspie. I just suspect that some of you are lazy because math is supposed to a good "trait"...
What are having problems with people?
Practice, practice, practice, practive makes perfect! practice makes perfect!, practice makes perfect! |
I suspect you are lazy, given your spelling errors, 'screaming' in caps (lack of netiquette), and some missing words. Math may be easy for you, but it doesn't mean that it is easy for everyone. Nor does it mean that people who find math difficult are lazy. All people with autism being great in maths and sciences is a stereotype.
I am not good in math. I am a second-year graduate student; I have my BALS in Journalism, History, and Russian. I am most certainly not lazy.
Some people are simply not going to be good in certain things, no matter how much they practice.
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Stimshieme
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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in case you hadn't noticed my tone I was just being funny...it's not like I swore at people. still some opinions are worthless like that comment on "nettiquette"...i shall ignore you.
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MysticSong
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Stimshieme wrote: | | in case you hadn't noticed my tone I was just being funny...it's not like I swore at people. still some opinions are worthless like that comment on "nettiquette"...i shall ignore you. |
Nothing in your post indicated any sort of humorous "tone" over the Internet. Nothing in my reply had anything to do with swearing, but screaming, which is not the same thing.
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Preston
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| Foreign languages are the thing for me. They've kicked my butt at every level, with one exception: an online-only Spanish course where I could learn most of the materially visually, and use the textbook on tests (though time limits were short so this benefit was limited). |
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curiouslittleboy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| I have issues with English, and read at roughly 100 words per minute (with the average being about 250-300wpm), but it's more natural inclination towards math/vs english rather than a learning disability. |
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RedRevolver
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| kip wrote: | | I have a hude problem with maths and science. The weird part is, I understand, intuitivly, insanely deep levels of theoretical physics and such. But I caint do basic algebra. So, all my teachers think I'm lazy. And it's not that I know what I'm talking about, it's like, the knowledge is just... there. I just KNOW it. But doing it? Completly different. |
Same with me.
I've got a learning difficult that has no specific name, it's just a trait of Asperger's I've got. I need help with organisation, starting my homework and visual aid as I find it difficult to learn without visual aids opposed to listening and I've got extremely poor organisation skills - to the point where teachers think I'm being lazy or naughty.
I once went to a teacher (my form tutor, to be exact) after a term or so of secondary school. I was crying with anxiety because of how much pressure I flet because of all the Set 1 (highest ability class, basically) I was getting, as I was in all classes. She just told me to suck it up and get one with it, there was nothing she could do etc.
I had that all through the next couple of years before I left completely. So glad I did. Even my teachers at the service I go to now don't completely understand. Meh. I don't blame them, although I've tried to explain...
Hopefull, my psychologists recommendations will be okay for college and I'll have help there. |
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ebec11
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I don't, but I do need extended time. My anxiety gets in the way of finishing a test on time 
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curiouslittleboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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AS in NOT a learning disability in the sense of math/reading/writing, but you COULD think of it as a SOCIAL learning disability.
But literally though.
Granted, it is, however possible for aspies to be co-morbid with LD's. |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen several posts on this thread with people supporting the idea of AS being a learning disability on the basis that some Aspies struggle with certain subjects.
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this line of reasoning? Most NT's are incapable of anything beyond basic math, and the writing skills I've seen from my NT older sisters, both of whom are well above average in intelligence, have not impressed me. Struggling with specific material is NOT the same as having a learning disability. If it was, then you would have to say that all stupid people (even all average people, and close to all above-average intelligence people) would have a learning disability.
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curiouslittleboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | I've seen several posts on this thread with people supporting the idea of AS being a learning disability on the basis that some Aspies struggle with certain subjects.
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this line of reasoning? Most NT's are incapable of anything beyond basic math, and the writing skills I've seen from my NT older sisters, both of whom are well above average in intelligence, have not impressed me. Struggling with specific material is NOT the same as having a learning disability. If it was, then you would have to say that all stupid people (even all average people, and close to all above-average intelligence people) would have a learning disability. |
Orwell, you might be onto something.
after I had my IQ tested, my tester said something similar to that.
However, I think restricting good math skills just to people with aspergers is a bit...biased?
I know some aspies who aren't good at math, and a bunch of NT who are great at it. |
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Orwell
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| curiouslittleboy wrote: | However, I think restricting good math skills just to people with aspergers is a bit...biased?
I know some aspies who aren't good at math, and a bunch of NT who are great at it. |
That's not quite what I meant, sorry if I was unclear. I said most NT's aren't capable of much past basic math, which is true. This was to counter all the claims on this thread that Aspies have a learning disability because of poor math skills, not to denigrate NT math skills. There are plenty who can do math, both Aspie and NT, but they are in the minority. The "average" person with an IQ of 100 is not generally capable of learning calculus.
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curiouslittleboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | | curiouslittleboy wrote: | However, I think restricting good math skills just to people with aspergers is a bit...biased?
I know some aspies who aren't good at math, and a bunch of NT who are great at it. |
That's not quite what I meant, sorry if I was unclear. I said most NT's aren't capable of much past basic math, which is true. This was to counter all the claims on this thread that Aspies have a learning disability because of poor math skills, not to denigrate NT math skills. There are plenty who can do math, both Aspie and NT, but they are in the minority. The "average" person with an IQ of 100 is not generally capable of learning calculus. |
hmm...ok...If I take that in the more positive way...ok. I guess. :\ |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Basically, what I meant was that "even" NT's, who are not considered to have a learning disability, often struggle with academics. Not earning straight A's in all AP classes≠a learning disability.
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twoshots
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Well, my impression of a learning disability is that the deficits are specific, and outside the normal range of lopsidedness that one would expect. The official definition (The National Joint Committee on Learning Disabilities (NJCLD)) goes:
| Quote: | | a heterogeneous group of disorders manifested by significant difficulties in the acquisition and use of listening, speaking, reading, writing, reasoning or mathematical abilities. These disorders are intrinsic to the individual and presumed to be due to Central Nervous System Dysfunction. Even though a learning disability may occur concomitantly with other handicapping conditions (e.g. sensory impairment, mental retardation, social and emotional disturbance) or environmental influences (e.g. cultural differences, insufficient/inappropriate instruction, psychogenic factors) it is not the direct result of those conditions or influences. |
In which case at first blush it seems to me that the distinction between a learning disability and just being specifically incompetent is just a matter of severity.
Poor functioning beyond what one would expect given the individuals intelligence occurs even in ADD. The "obsessive interest" characteristic of AS seems to imply difficulty learning topics outside this range. This sort of specificity strikes me as enough to qualify for a learning disability, although I am really unsure and shall have to look into it more.
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