vulcanpastor
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I'm an African American Aspie. As for hip-hop/R&B and gansta rap, I tend to like some hip-hop and I tend to really like 70s and 80s R&B. I can't stand gansta rap because I think it is degrading to women and African Americans in general.
I was always teased by black kids for "talking white." I never could talk very ghetto. Didn't see the point.
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| I have read a lot of a famous autistic black artist Stephen Wiltshire you may have heard of him and he is very similar to what I was in my early childhood but I am not black |
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Callista
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So if you're black, your Aspie-ness could be seen as "acting white"? Weird. How do white people see it? Do they see you "acting black" or "acting weird"? White people seem to be asked whether they're foreign, but that could just be odd pronunciation sounding like an accent. I wonder if maybe black people aren't diagnosed often enough because it's perceived as "acting white" instead of Asperger's? Do Aspies have an easier time fitting into cultures they weren't born into, because not so many expectations are placed on them?
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| Callista wrote: | | So if you're black, your Aspie-ness could be seen as "acting white"? Weird. How do white people see it? Do they see you "acting black" or "acting weird"? |
Speaking for myself, I have been asked by mainstream culture folks if I speak one way at work, and another way when amongst friends and family. They seemed perturbed at my excellent diction. 
| Callista wrote: | | White people seem to be asked whether they're foreign, but that could just be odd pronunciation sounding like an accent. |
I have heard instances of this as well.
| Callista wrote: | | I wonder if maybe black people aren't diagnosed often enough because it's perceived as "acting white" instead of Asperger's? Do Aspies have an easier time fitting into cultures they weren't born into, because not so many expectations are placed on them? |
Yes, you make several valid points! I was often stared at when I spoke, and then asked why I spoke so "proper." Diagnoses eluded me and my siblings, because we were seen as weird, as opposed to being on the spectrum. Also, Asperger's was unheard of when I was growing up.
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| Quote: | | he people in the south have country accents because they started to talk a lot slower (or thought they had to) during the slavery years for their black slaves to understand. This started to be picked up by everybody in the community and continues to this day. This is not a joke by the way. Think about it. |
This is incorrect. The common southern drawl heard from people in the southeast is actually a spinoff on a highland Scottich/Irish accent. These people inhabited West Virginia area about 400 years ago, then continued south through Tennessee, Georgia, etc. These areas, especially eastern Tennessee, Western North Carolina, and West Virginia, the accent is still very strong. In many cases, it is not slow. Listen closely to someone from this area speaking, and you can hear the highland accent! |
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hartzofspace
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| AV-geek wrote: | | Quote: | | he people in the south have country accents because they started to talk a lot slower (or thought they had to) during the slavery years for their black slaves to understand. This started to be picked up by everybody in the community and continues to this day. This is not a joke by the way. Think about it. |
This is incorrect. The common southern drawl heard from people in the southeast is actually a spinoff on a highland Scottich/Irish accent. These people inhabited West Virginia area about 400 years ago, then continued south through Tennessee, Georgia, etc. These areas, especially eastern Tennessee, Western North Carolina, and West Virginia, the accent is still very strong. In many cases, it is not slow. Listen closely to someone from this area speaking, and you can hear the highland accent! |
This is true. For those who like children's books by the author Joan Aiken, the way the characters in England spoke, long ago, is remarkably like the way a lot of Southerners talk. Especially in the series whose main protagonist was the character Dido Twite. Words like "reckon," and "tarnation," come to mind. In the forward section of a book by Alan Brown, on ghost stories from the south, he writes quite a bit about accents in the south and their original origins.
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| AV-geek wrote: | | The common southern drawl heard from people in the southeast is actually a spinoff on a highland Scottich/Irish accent. These people inhabited West Virginia area about 400 years ago, then continued south through Tennessee, Georgia, etc. These areas, especially eastern Tennessee, Western North Carolina, and West Virginia, the accent is still very strong. In many cases, it is not slow. Listen closely to someone from this area speaking, and you can hear the highland accent! |
It all depends on what part of the south. A Charleston (SC) accent is much differant from an Asheville (NC) accent, wheich is differant again from a Central Tennessee accent, or even a Louisiana accent.
Southern Accents and diction are a good mix of not only Scottish/Irish accents, but also West African accents, as well as both Acadian French and Huegenot French. The accents that you hear in Appalacia are decidedly more Scottish/Irish in origin because that's where a lot of the Scots Irish settled. -- Take note that the Appalcian accent is decidedly differant than a Canadian accent,where a greater amount of Scots Irish settled. -- Also FWIW, the Scots/Irish accent is not a Highland accent at all, it's primarily a lowland Scots accent. A lot of the highlanders still spoke Gaelic at the time that the Scots Irish came over here.
In the central part of South Carolina, (where I currently live) there were also a lot of Germans that settled here in the 18th Century, and the dialect that they spoke contributed greatly to the local accent.
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| CleverKitten wrote: | I guess I would be considered "black" by others judging only my appearace, but I don't consider myself black. I am biracial.
I don't really listen to any rap music or hip-hip or R&B. I don't act, talk, or dress "black" in any way.
I have been harassed tremendously by my black peers and even some of my white peers because I act too "white." And it is really annoying and frustrating!  |
Yeah I used to get that too. My friends right now don't care really, although they do find it funny when I fulfill the stereotypes. |
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| My aspie son is mixed - black/white |
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| Aspie_Chav wrote: | I love classical music, Kraftwork and various others in the New Romantics category. And I am not that black either.
I don’t listen to mainstream rap/hip-hop but I do like Horror-Core Rap like Ganksta Nip, Esham and the Gravediggerz. Ganksta nip is so psychotic and evil in his lyrics he is funny. I also love a song from Insane Clown Possy Call “I like to stab-them-all”
I isn’t beggin it at all I wouldn’t be good at it.
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The four white guys topic
Sorry, people, I had to check out this topic. i always worry about insults. Self-deprecating humour is okay. When I saw chav's posted pic I thought it was some sort of parody on whites and it looked funny. The text, though, explains that it is a band called Kraftwerk. I am not attuned to young people's music. Generation gap. 
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| sartresue wrote: | | Aspie_Chav wrote: | I love classical music, Kraftwork and various others in the New Romantics category. And I am not that black either.
I don’t listen to mainstream rap/hip-hop but I do like Horror-Core Rap like Ganksta Nip, Esham and the Gravediggerz. Ganksta nip is so psychotic and evil in his lyrics he is funny. I also love a song from Insane Clown Possy Call “I like to stab-them-all”
I isn’t beggin it at all I wouldn’t be good at it.
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The four white guys topic
Sorry, people, I had to check out this topic. i always worry about insults. Self-deprecating humour is okay. When I saw chav's posted pic I thought it was some sort of parody on whites and it looked funny. The text, though, explains that it is a band called Kraftwerk. I am not attuned to young people's music. Generation gap. |
I'm not sure of your age, sartresue, but Kraftwerk was around in the 70's. I still love their song, "Trans-Europe Express." It was, I think, an early example of music genre called electronica.
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Warsie
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Are there any "black" Aspies here?(No racial j |
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| Chimchar wrote: | | Do you listen to rap/hip-hop? I hate "gangsta" rap. |
Occasionally, yes.
| Quote: | | Do you guys like rock? |
f**k YEAH! Linkin Park, some Alternative, etc.
| Quote: | | Do you guys speak the "ghetto" lingo like your everyday NTs? |
no. I do not.
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It sort of annoys me to hear everyone around me whine about me being too white.
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I'm used to it 
the caucasians are cooler (some of them)
I'm just curious, I don't mean to insult anyone.[/quote]
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| Callista wrote: | | So if you're black, your Aspie-ness could be seen as "acting white"? Weird. How do white people see it? Do they see you "acting black" or "acting weird"? |
As being white and/or weird (As you have your quirks and differences with caucasians too).
| Quote: | | White people seem to be asked whether they're foreign, but that could just be odd pronunciation sounding like an accent. |
I've heard from a teacher of mine that I don't have an accent unlike the other Afro-Americans.
| Quote: | | I wonder if maybe black people aren't diagnosed often enough because it's perceived as "acting white" instead of Asperger's? |
That, and the whole money and education and religion and other crap.
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Do Aspies have an easier time fitting into cultures they weren't born into, because not so many expectations are placed on them? |
depends.
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Speaking for myself, I have been asked by mainstream culture folks if I speak one way at work, and another way when amongst friends and family. They seemed perturbed at my excellent diction. |
That's because many blacks DO speak differently between family/friends anf foreigners. Actually, some people did studies on that and AAVE.
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| Chimchar wrote: | For those of you aspies who are african american, (I'm sure there's not that many.) Do you listen to rap/hip-hop? I hate "gangsta" rap. I feel that it is degrading the african american name. Do you guys like rock? Do you guys speak the "ghetto" lingo like your everyday NTs? Have you ever been insulted by your peers because you aren't 'black' enough?
It sort of annoys me to hear everyone around me whine about me being too white.
I'm just curious, I don't mean to insult anyone. |
I am african american. Sometimes I listen to rap- it depends on who it is and what mood I am in. I despise 50 cent, lil wayne, p diddy and many current artists. There's no individuality there. The lifestyle they adore seems boring and empty to me. Awhile ago i was into all kinds of poetry, and that included spoken word. I liked to watch def poetry when hbo used to run it. I like rock the most of any music. there are times when i just feel ridiculous listening to music in general- i go through music/no music phases. I've never spoken in ghetto lingo. i dont mind it when people do though- it's just another variant of the english language; it only matters if people are friendly to me. Im not attracted to it romntically, but I dont mind it otherwise. Some of my black peers would say I thought I was white, and some of my white peers say I dont act like Im black. It never has bothered me. Some black kids would be mean with it, but a lot of them just said it as an observation. Sometimes I feel that gangsta rap is ruining the african american name, but then I think anyone who really believes that all black culture is gangster does not know anything about blacks' history. Lumping all blacks as ghetto or gangster is highly inaccurate. My mother's generation was grand (1950s-60s-70s) and the Harlem Renaissance was amazing as well. I view gangster rap as another youth trend, like emo music. I dont really see it as defining all of the black person's experience in america. |
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