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ZedSimon
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I don't give much about Grammer either, but they tell me he was great on Frasier.  |
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axelkat
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somebody told me once that a good writer, writes how they speak. As on the internet, grammar is unneccisary. Just look at all the little abbreviations and etiquite we have to follow.
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TAFKASH
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ZedSimon wrote: | | I don't give much about Grammer either, but they tell me he was great on Frasier. |
Please..... This is a bad grammar thread, not a bad splelign thread..... Do try to keep on topic old boy.... 
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tallgirl
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| Quote: | | I say 'avin' instead of having as one example) Nevertheless, I do always find myself wanting to insert sharp pointy objects into the persons of duck-billed chav types spouting their "innit"s and "yeah, but"s and "wickid, man"s and the like..... |
British/Hinglish is invading at least my part of the US. On the East Coast of the US, particularly in Boston, they say "wicked cool" or just wicked. My best friend from New Hampshire said wicked a lot when she moved here, to the West Coast, and we always made fun of her. However, now more and more people are saying it. Because of "Bend it Like Beckham," I am hearing 'innit' a lot more.
More people, like my husband and myself use 'bloody' and 'spot on' a lot, but that is because we watched so much of "The Office," and "Coupling."
I think proper grammar has its place. When I attended university, I always used proper English. However, when my friends and I met at the local bar every Friday night, we used street slang, except we never said 'ain't', 'got no' (I hate that one) and 'i don't got any'
There is a part of my family that is not well educated, and whenever the highly educated part of my family and the not so educated members get together, conversation is difficult. They just sound so stupid, but I love them.
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Tom_FL_MA
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Joined: Jul 05, 2004
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Location: Central Florida; originally southeastern Massachusetts
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| hale_bopp wrote: | people that use "text language" for example:
Hey, how r u 2day? wat r u up 2?
They annoy the hell out of me and it looks like their IQ dropped about 50 points.
Alternate caps are annoying, too
HeLlO ThErE HoW ArE YoU
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| Mich wrote: | altrnat caps r ok but IM shorthand = total NT stuff that = bogus IMHO. u r soooo right about IM shorthand. LOL @ me?? wat? ok. guess im annoyin doin this text-lang. junk. g2g learn how 2 type propr english liek that michl grrl w/ somethin calld "AS".
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| Mich wrote: | | Just using internet shorthand. |
Indeed, it's internet shorthand. Something I am not found of, either. |
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aspergian_mutant
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Neurotypical
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ZedSimon wrote: |
see what i mean this is how i talk to someone on the internet like im talking to them in person its quicker to type but its harder to read cuz you dont know where 1 sentence ends and the other begins |
This is absolutely, positively the WORST kind of inadequacy in written text in my opinion. Your sentence is still easy to read because it's relatively short, but when people write a whole paragraph without punctuation I usually refuse to read it; in most cases, the time I'd waste trying to decipher it is more valuable than the information it contains.
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ProfessorX
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By many people's standards 9 times out of 10 I'll be forgotten about based on the way in which I write things out whether it's been my emails,posts,even the rarely used hand-written letter.Still, I'm constantly trying to do my utmost best to reach the proverbial gap..
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Jaejoongfangirl
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Misusages of "Good," "Well," "Bad," and "Poor" annoy me. Sorry CockneyRebel, but your thread title should be "Poor grammar."
Sorry. I'm the most annoying sort of Grammar Nazi out there and I know it, but I still internally wince when people say they are "Doing good."
No offence intended, CockneyRebel. I'm sure my post is crammed full of improper grammar and spelling, feel free to rip it to shreds if you so please. |
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Spokane_Girl
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Oh god I use short hand spelling in IM. It's quicker than typing the whole word. besides I am not going to spell check every sentence and then have the other person waiting for my IM. I use words like lol, gtg, ttyl, sry. Even my own aspie buddies use them. And I hate text messaging because it takes too long to type every word. Gah.
I used to be annoyed by people mispronouncing words. Example:
Comfortable. People say "Comfterble" instead.
Then when I was in high school, mom told me not all words are pronounced the way they sound like; comfortable, hospital. I used to say "Hos-pit-tal" instead of "hosbital."
And I'm sorry to you all but grammar may be changing. I notice bad grammar on TV today. Either it's the characters or the screenwriters and movie people who just can't speak correct grammar.
Even my own boyfriend speak bad grammar. Unfortunitly he does not know he is doing it, nor does he know the difference. He has been talking that way his whole life because that's how his family talks. So yes people even spoke bad grammar in the 80's and under but was it really that bad as it is now? I didn't notice it till my family moved to Montana. Everyone was speaking bad grammar.
"I seen this on TV," instead of "I've seen it on TV."
"It don't work," instead of "it doesn't work."
"It don't go there," instead of "It doesn't go there."
What else also annoys me is people using words wrong. Notebook for example. People keep calling their binders notebooks. Damn it, it's a binder, not a notebook. 
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trotz
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| I never could figure out why people use the word "I" as a direct object. (Ex: They came to see Jim and I last night.) Do they think that phrasing their sentences this way makes them sound intelligent? It doesn't do that. They really sound like they never learned proper English skills. |
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Rislaja
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| This is something that causes me nothing but irritation. I don't believe in bad grammar among native speakers. It doesn't exist; there are only registers of speech and socially acceptable uses of registers of speech. I could rant quite a bit about this (and certainly have in the past), but will refrain and redirect all of the prescriptivists to this article. |
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Norah_W
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| NeantHumain wrote: | | I throw a sh*t fit when people misuse the word whence. |
I've hardly ever heard anyone use the word "whence" in years. Doesn't it mean the same as "where"? Is this the correct way to use the word: "This new camera doesn't work. I'm going to take it back to the store from whence it came and ask for another one." |
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Norah_W
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| tallgirl wrote: | | Quote: | | I say 'avin' instead of having as one example) Nevertheless, I do always find myself wanting to insert sharp pointy objects into the persons of duck-billed chav types spouting their "innit"s and "yeah, but"s and "wickid, man"s and the like..... |
British/Hinglish is invading at least my part of the US. On the East Coast of the US, particularly in Boston, they say "wicked cool" or just wicked. My best friend from New Hampshire said wicked a lot when she moved here, to the West Coast, and we always made fun of her. However, now more and more people are saying it. Because of "Bend it Like Beckham," I am hearing 'innit' a lot more.
More people, like my husband and myself use 'bloody' and 'spot on' a lot, but that is because we watched so much of "The Office," and "Coupling."
I think proper grammar has its place. When I attended university, I always used proper English. However, when my friends and I met at the local bar every Friday night, we used street slang, except we never said 'ain't', 'got no' (I hate that one) and 'i don't got any'
There is a part of my family that is not well educated, and whenever the highly educated part of my family and the not so educated members get together, conversation is difficult. They just sound so stupid, but I love them.
Tallgirl. |
Hopefully someone here can correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't "wicked" always been used a lot in New England to mean something like "extremely"? I remember a talk show host about 20 years ago who is probably in her 70's now, being kind of excited that one of her callers used the term, because she had used it a lot growing up in New England but never heard it in CAlifornia or wherever she lived at that time. And there's a book "A Dangerous Woman" by Mary McGarry Morris, that was published in about 1990 or so that is set in Vermont, and one character says she is "so wicked sore" (she had been having sex with her boyfriend in their place of employment after everyone had left--he wanted to go back inside and do it again and she didn't.) |
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nekowafer
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| I think incorrect spelling and pronunciation are the things that bother me the most. Grammar is sort of a "fine art" at this point.. most people don't even know what it is anymore. But when someone has grown up in an english-speaking area and still can't say "scissors" correctly, I get overly angry about it. My old manager couldn't even spell "shady" right, and she's been through college! |
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