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Yupa
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| Triangular_Trees wrote: |
That's all to do with the teacher union - its too strong for most schools to even have a chance at taking action against. |
Quite the opposite actually. Most teachers' unions actually suffer from quite a lack of funding, membership, and support, due to teachers who are afraid that they will lose their jobs or be replaced by being involved in an organization that is meant to protect their job and their rights. Or, in some cases, due to the fact that teachers have been brainwashed against the teachers' unions by people who want them to continue being underpaid to save on costs. |
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Yupa
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: Re: Legal Action |
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| beentheredonethat wrote: | every one of the parents of the children who "voted" the kid out.
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That's ridiculous, the parents were not directly responsible for their childrens' decisions and if you wanted to punish someone for this it would be more than a little unjust to punish the parents, a number of whom would be left destitute if not homeless if a lawsuit were successfully filed against them. |
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tweety_fan
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this thing is just pathetic. that teacher was sitting in on the special education meetings with the kid from what i heard and was quite an experienced teacher. so why did they allow/encourage the students to victimise the poor kid? i hope the kid is treated better at his new school.
teachers that engage in that sought of conduct should be sacked. |
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Spacedoubt
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| Thomas1138 wrote: | | Quote: | After each classmate was allowed to say what they didn't like about Barton's 5-year-old son, Alex, his Morningside Elementary teacher said they were going to take a vote, Barton said.
By a 14 to 2 margin, the class voted him out of the class. |
My God. What a monster. There's absolutely no excuse here. Removing a problem child from the classroom is one thing, but to deliberately expose a 5-year-old to verbal abuse from his peers and then ask them to vote him out of the class? The teacher should be fired on the spot. There's just no excuse for such deliberate and cruel abuse.
Get that thing away from 5-year-olds (whether autistic or not) and sterilize her while you're at it. |
I second that. Let's take a vote. 
That teacher is crazy. And not in a good way. She shouldn't be working with kids. |
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Everchanging
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f**k YEAH! Seven figures, possibly eight...it's only right.
As for "reassigning" the whore of a so-called teacher, reassign her to a f***ing kitchen at some f***ing greasy spoon somewhere far away from civilization as possible... |
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Eel_Nadroj
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: 5-year old aspie voted out of kindergarten by students |
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[quote="Lone_Wolf"]St. Lucie teacher has students vote on whether 5-year-old can stay in class
PORT ST. LUCIE — Melissa Barton said she is considering legal action after her son's kindergarten teacher led his classmates to vote him out of class.
After each classmate was allowed to say what they didn't like about Barton's 5-year-old son, Alex, his Morningside Elementary teacher said they were going to take a vote, Barton said.
By a 14 to 2 margin, the class voted him out of the class.
Barton said her son is in the process of being diagnosed with Aspberger's, a type of high-functioning autism. Alex began the testing process in February for an official diagnosis under the suggestion of Morningside Principal Marsha Cully.
Alex has had disciplinary issues because of his disabilities, Barton said. The school and district has met with Barton and her son to create an individual education plan, she said. His teacher, Wendy Portillo, has attended these meetings, she said.
Barton said after the vote, Alex's teacher asked him how he felt.
"He said, 'I feel sad,'" she said.
Alex left the classroom and spent the rest of the day in the nurse's office, she said.
Barton said when she came to pick up her son at the school on Wednesday, he was leaving the nurse's office.
"He was shaken up," she said. Barton said the nurse told her to talk with the child's teacher, who told her what happened.
Alex hasn't been back to school since then, and Barton said he won't be returning. He starts screaming when she brings him with her to drop off his sibling at school.
Thursday night, his mother heard him saying "I'm not special."
Barton said Alex is reliving the incident.
They said he was "disgusting" and "annoying," Barton said.
"He was incredibly upset," Barton said. "The only friend he has ever made in his life was forced to do this."
The child's mother filed a complaint with the school resource officer, who investigated the matter, said Port St. Lucie spokeswoman Michelle Steele said. But the state attorney's office concluded the matter did not meet the criteria for emotional child abuse, so no criminal charges will be filed, Steele said. Port St. Lucie Police is no longer investigating, but is documenting the complaint, she said.
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.
St. Lucie School's spokeswoman Janice Karst said the district is investigating the incident, but could not make any further comment.
Vern Melvin, Department of Children and Families circuit administrator, confirmed the agency is investigating an allegation of abuse at Morningside, but said he could not elaborate.
Source: http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/23/st-lucie-teacher-has-class-vote-whether-5-year-old/
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Thats what pisses me off about the school system. Why would a teacher have kids vote out a student especially if the kids are 5 years old and the kid has aspergers. I've had a teachers like that it's rediculas....The kid didn't choose to have aspergers and problems so the teacher should give him a break. This goes to show how lazy and cruel teachers are to others that are different. The thing that really gets me is why would she ask the students what they dislike about him? The teacher should serve some jail time for that....
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Triangular_Trees
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Yupa wrote: | | Triangular_Trees wrote: |
That's all to do with the teacher union - its too strong for most schools to even have a chance at taking action against. |
Quite the opposite actually. Most teachers' unions actually suffer from quite a lack of funding, membership, and support, due to teachers who are afraid that they will lose their jobs or be replaced by being involved in an organization that is meant to protect their job and their rights. Or, in some cases, due to the fact that teachers have been brainwashed against the teachers' unions by people who want them to continue being underpaid to save on costs. |
I don't think you are clear on what I'm talking about. I'm speaking about the teachers union, not a loose federation of local teachers which are really nothing more than teacher clubs designed to put forth the bulk of teachers ideas on contract negotiations for their school.
The teacher's union is one of the strongest, and sometimes referred to as the strongest, force in politics today and they aren't afraid to sue the federal government. Most schools are afraid to even consider fighting it. The only teachers you'll typically find who don't belong are those who just entered the profession, and a few really old timers who know they'll be leaving within a year or too. For the most part anyone who has been a teacher more than a year and hasn't joined is really too stupid to be allowed in the classroom in the first place.
The NEA has 2.7 million members in the USA. To put that in perspective, America only has 3 million public school teachers. Doesn't sound like the lack of membership you think it has does it  |
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slowmutant
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After hundreds of posts, WP members have successfully beat this horse to death, buried it, exhumed it, and beat it some more.  |
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Paguk
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| Yeah...well...Florida. |
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ProfessorX
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I'll admit that I had a great deal of troublesome behaviors throuhgout the time I was in school and even into my adult life  but, the ideal of having the class kick someone out that, to me is pathetic and really says a great deal about the understanding of the other students and school itself..
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