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merrymadscientist Deinonychus


Joined: Dec 19, 2007 Posts: 301 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: Judgement of human traits |
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Why are some human traits considered as things which individuals cannot control and cannot be condemned for, whereas others are considered to be an individual's choice?
I will take the example first of things such as intelligence or physical beauty or extroversion. All of these are considered good traits to have. However, people that don't have them are not in general blamed for not having them (they may be looked down upon in certain ways or miss out on opportunities, but noone tells them that it is their fault that they have a low IQ or are ugly/introvert). Note, these things are both genetic and environmental in origin (although probably mainly genetic).
However if we take other positive traits such as goodness and motivation/willpower, then people are assumed to take responsibility for their presence/absence and are blamed if lacking in these areas. It is automatically assumed that everyone has the equivalent amount of willpower to motivate themselves to achieve whatever they should achieve (or even just to survive). So we have people that are disabled but who fight on cheerfully and achieve things against the odds held up as role models for those who give in. Does anyone ever consider that possessing willpower is just as out of individual control as possessing intelligence? That in fact we don't all possess equal capacity to make things happen in our lives?
A similar thing with goodness. People condemn Hitler, Saddam, psychopathic serial killers as being truly evil people (who some say will go straight to hell - I do not personally believe in such a place), but is it really possible that such people have made a free choice to be like that? Perhaps they are no more to blame than Mother Teresa.
I guess that these latter traits in general have more environmental influence than genetic (although this is just a guess and I dont know for sure), but I don't see how that really can change our perceptive of the trait, as we are just as much a product of the environment as of our genes. Perhaps these latter traits are considered in some way more inherent to the 'self' or the 'soul' of the person and this is why most people are so judgemental about them.
I would be interested to hear your views. |
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monty Phoenix


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| The sniper who shot at students from a tower in Texas a few decades ago was found to have a brain tumor - which raises the question of whether he was in control of his behavior. Not sure, but maybe. |
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Awesomelyglorious Destroyer of worlds, reaver of souls

Joined: Dec 18, 2005 Posts: 5710 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Judgement of human traits |
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| merrymadscientist wrote: |
I guess that these latter traits in general have more environmental influence than genetic (although this is just a guess and I dont know for sure), but I don't see how that really can change our perceptive of the trait, as we are just as much a product of the environment as of our genes. Perhaps these latter traits are considered in some way more inherent to the 'self' or the 'soul' of the person and this is why most people are so judgemental about them.
I would be interested to hear your views. |
The issue is that many people believe in a libertarian free will which means that we can have personality traits arise ex nihilo rather than driven by genetics or environment. This means that people are blamed because they willed themselves not to have these traits. However, to take a more determinist view, to blame a person for not having a trait is a part of the individual's environment, and by punishment we end up promoting individuals to attempt to develop the "good" trait. The major issue when understanding blame in a determinist model is to keep in mind that blame is also a part of the determinist model, and that a determinist model is incompatible with a metaphysically libertarian notion of justice, but rather assigns punishment for the bad nature as a means of correcting it. |
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