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anthonylee
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Fnord
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: anyone interested in writing star trek novels |
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| anthonylee wrote: | | anyone interested in writing star trek novels |
What? There aren't already more than enough?
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anthonylee
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: anyone interested in writing star trek novels |
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I know there are many. some are poorly done.
What would you write about if you were to write about something? |
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Fnord
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I've written romantic ghost stories set during the interregnum of the 20th century (the time between the wars - 1918 to 1940), and "hard" science-fiction novelettes set on Earth in the not-too-distant future. Some of my sonnets aren't too bad, but my publisher won't touch them.
The main problem with writing in the Star Trek universe, is that all the tropes have already been defined - there is little, if any, new ground to cover - and the fans expect only certain things from the Feddies, only certain other things from the Klingons, et cetera. The other problem is that anyone can write a Star Trek story, and most writers have at least one story (or at least an outline) of execrable quality somewhere in their portfolio.
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anthonylee
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: anyone interested in writing star trek novels |
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I realize that alot of aspects of star trek have been covered. My intent was to write somthing that has not been well covered, not covered at all in a different way. I think some things could have been done a lot better!
I have thought some about writing a ghost story, but it hasn't gone very far yet. I like ghost storys.
I also like to write satire/jokes/humor involing wordplay. I love to critisize figures of speach. |
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Star Wars vs. Star Trek.
had to say it 
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Traveller vs. Star anything!
Right back at you!
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| I can think of many. |
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| 1 wrote: | | I can think of many. |
Such as...?
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Batz
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I hate Star Trek- the shows and the novels. Everything about it doesn't make any sense. Like for example, why would Captain Kirk or any other commanders on the shows and novels would be exploring with their crew when in reality the captains and commanders would be headquartered on Earth, giving commands to the lower ranking soldiers or whatever they are. And the thing about warp speed. How can you go faster than the speed of light when in reality if you go faster than the speed of light you'll turn into energy. Makes me tick!
Also about the plotline, it sucks. Why would you have a plotline that would just have people exploring new worlds? If I was the creator of the show, I would made the story in which you have a low ranking soldier becoming excited about going to exploring or something that would explain why he was coming to explore like searching for a way to save Earth from a disease or apocalyptic doom. That would seem more logical and a more interesting plot.
They say that in science fiction, stories are supposed to be based on everything and every law in reality on earth unless there is an exception, like if they explain why it can happen during the future or alternate world/universe. At least Star Wars make it seem real and logical if you put it that way, and it did have a strong plot, showing a saga by having one point of the story filmed in one movie, and another filmed in another- all the way towards to final battle. To me, that seems to make much more sense than if you are just exploring just to keep an ignorant audience (Trekkie fans) entertained. If it was put in a book, real science fiction fans wouldn't buy it. |
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anthonylee
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: Anyone intersted in writing star trek novels |
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Batz, You can be a critic, not like something, but can you take it in return? What if I or some one else Critisized What you liked? and said it sucked! Think about this! I realize there are flaws and inconsistancies in startrek and It could have been done much better!
I do have other ideas for sci-fi/ fantisy stories/ novels.
I do agree with a lot of the things you said about "Star wars" though. It was a well done saga!
What kind of a sci-fi/ fantisy story would you be inclined to write? I'm curious..... |
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Fnord
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Unfortunately, like Autism, Science Fiction is based on a spectrum of conditions.
"Hard" Science Fiction extrapolates on known physical laws, and does not assume anything beyond them. Thus, no faster-than-light travel, no telepathic mutants, no gravity control, et cetera.
"Soft" Science Fiction accepts and relies upon the very concepts that "Hard" SF rejects. Thus, you have your Star Treks, Star Wars, Independence Days, and Men In Black.
"Fantasy" takes on metaphysics, magic, alternate universes, and the like. It also lacks internal consistancy, such as when a single spell conjures up a griffon on one attempt, purifies water on the next, and then blows up a mountain on the third.
If we give "Hard" SF a value of 100, then "Soft" SF runs from perhaps 50 to 99, and "Fantasy" runs from 0 to 49. There is, of course, a lot of overlap in the 25 to 75 region of the spectrum, but "Hard" SF will always be inviolable.
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Batz
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Anthonylee wrote:
| Quote: | Batz, You can be a critic, not like something, but can you take it in return? What if I or some one else Critisized What you liked? and said it sucked! Think about this! I realize there are flaws and inconsistancies in startrek and It could have been done much better!
I do have other ideas for sci-fi/ fantisy stories/ novels.
I do agree with a lot of the things you said about "Star wars" though. It was a well done saga!
What kind of a sci-fi/ fantisy story would you be inclined to write? I'm curious..... |
I might have been a little too hard on the subject didn't I. Well anyway, I like to come up with fantasy stories with a little hint of an anime, but I also like to keep it reality based in a way. I do write fantasy stories based on religion, just a different perspective of how it could have been.
Right now I'm coming up with an idea of about a boy whose sister has been taken up into the sky by a portal. The boy wants to get his sister back but he doesn't know how. A few moments later a young woman comes up to the boy and tells him that her sister went to heaven. The boy asks the woman if she knows a way how to get to heaven and rescue his sister. She says that the only way how to get to heaven alive is to go to the Garden of Eden, which is somewhere on Earth. They discover the garden and they find a gate, which will take you to heaven or hell. They go through it and go to heaven, which is also called the fourth dimension.
Once they are in heaven, they boy and woman fight angels, and eventually they get to God. The boy asks God where his sister is, and God says that his sister is not here. The boy starts telling God all the things the woman said to him, and God says that a demon must've told him that. THe boy doesn't believe him at first, but when he shes the woman again, she appears in the form of a beautiful demon. The Woman explains that her name is Lilith, and that the reason she came here was that she could get the key that unlocks Satans's Gate so she can free Satan and his legion of demons. eventually the boy and several angels go to hell or the zeroth dimension and stop Lilith from opening the door, preventing the Apocalypse from happening, and rescuing the boy's sister. |
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