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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Otherkin Reply with quote

Yes! I am a centaur. I have not been able to find a centaur avatar for my computer use, however. But if you could see me - you would know I am a centaur.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never heard from a centaur before, excuse me if the thought of horse makes my mouth water (hungry draggie here Smile ) sorry bad joke
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey it wasn't that bad of a joke, and i would never eat a sentient being Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyway forgetting that joke of bad taste, i wouldn't mind hearing more from others
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am the Prince of Children and Elves.

i am magical, as all elves are.

i died alone, after all the other children had died, as all children do.

i have just awoken, and i remember again who i am.

i have searched for myself for 44 years.

i just remembered, today, that i was the Prince of Children

and that i am the Prince of Elves

The Earth spoke; and i was.

look what they have done while i was away

they have lost their home, and cannot hear the Earth speak

but we can always find our way home

if you remember you have not changed at all

and are exactly the same as you were as a child

before you told yourself to sleep

It is painful to wake up and remember who you are.

- the Prince of Children and Elves
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherkin.net wrote:
What are Otherkin? Otherkin (aka Fairth, Metahuman, and sometimes overlapping with Vampires and Furries) are those people who believe themselves to be spiritually and/or physically other than human.

As a wise man once said...

... Bollocks!

Humans believing themselves to be other than Human are either delusional or are involved in some kind of fantasy role-playing activity.

However, in the interest of open-mindedness, I am willing to concede the point if some draco-faerie-furry-indigo-weejee person would produce evidence to back up their statements of belief. Something other than "Prove that I'm not" or "You question my word? How RUDE!"

Or, better yet, admit that this thread was started in the hope that others would join in on a fantasy-based role-playing activity, and I will be done with it.

Please?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnord wrote:

Humans believing themselves to be other than Human are either delusional or are involved in some kind of fantasy role-playing activity.

However, in the interest of open-mindedness, I am willing to concede the point if some draco-faerie-furry-indigo-weejee person would produce evidence to back up their statements of belief.

Please?


Hi Fnord;

Yes, this can be proven. Someone on these forums can fix electronic devices by opening the enclosure and 'seeing patterns' and then placing whatever is off the pattern back into it. Then 9 out of 10 times, the electronic device is fixed. It's a post here, perhaps on a "What's your talent/skill/gift/super-power" topic.
Yes, it's true, and i don't have to see it to know it's true.
Bring them several electronic devices that aren't working right, and you'll see for yourself. i don't need it proven; you do. Find the post and bring them broken electronics.

I can do have done lots of amazing things, and 'impossible' things.
No human can best me in physical battle. That's always true.
But it has to be real, otherwise i have no reason to do battle. You will be amazed; everyone always is.
i'll have lots of fun ... as long as i don't get arrested again, and i won't hurt anyone very much at all.
So, we'd have to go into the inner city and into the ghettos, were i can get jumped by a gang of gangsta black dudes. Nobody ever calls the police or tells the police anything in the ghetto; it's against the law, there.
Black dudes in the ghetto hate white people; HATE. just because i'm white. They'll jump me just because i'm white.
It's scary, but you can't be hurt if i'm with you. i walked through all of Los Angeles to see if i was really "all that" i thought i was (ok, i was 28 at the time, and such was what i needed to know). i am.
Los Angeles has 40,000 street lights or street intersections; i forgot which, but the pilot announced this as we were banking over the city.
i can battle ten gangstas and protect you at the same time. i don't actually have to even hurt them; i can just show them how easily and much i can hurt them if i want to, and they won't deal with that at all.
There's no room for puff or blufff in the ghetto; your bluff is always called and your puff is always popped.
In the ghetto, it's a matter of survival, and they may not know anything about me when they jump me, but they will learn very quickly, and then they'll back away fast and split up ... so i can only get one of them, since they all run in separate directions. That's how you survive, living in the ghetto.

If you really, really want to witness, i can guarantee you will witness that ten people who hate me cannot possibly best me. They will always strike first, and they hit you to take you down, and they hit you hard - like in the back of the head - and they don't fight fair, they fight to win only. No, i have never taken martial arts; i never needed to. It's impossible to beat perfection, and you will witness perfection. That always ends up happening. If you're with me, it would be impossible for anyone to hurt you.
You might witness me get annoyed if someone hurts me a little.

I know i've done the things i've done. People have witnessed me do impossible things. i understand they are 'impossible' because i am very familiar with the look of disbelief on people's faces (open eyes and mouth). If you want to verify things i have done ... if you REALLY want to, then i will help you.

For instance, one of my friends, who is 43yo and the main foreman of a municiple and state paving and pipe contractor, will be able to verify the following, all of which took place within a few months, several years ago:
- i diagnosed and fixed his computer's hard-drive by looking at his computer and telling him that it wasn't his hard-drive, but was instead the memory stick giving the hard-drive incorrect information (and then i opened his computer - because i had only looked at it for several seconds - and replaced the memory stick, and then his computer worked correctly)
- i fixed my computer because the power supply was accumulating a static charge and i had to unplug it and short out the power supply prongs before starting the computer (which is impossible to know ... and that really is the question, after all ... How DID i know to do that???)
- i brought an industrial wooden electrical wire spool into my home by placing it into the trunk of my car and then carrying it inside my home (i'm just thin; my friend's arms are each the size of my thigh, and it takes two men to lift one of those spools, evidently - or are they called 'spindles'?).

I have done too many things, known too many things, that are simply impossible to do or know. Throughout my life.
Impossible by my definition, which *used* to be as strict as conceivable. But i cannot deny the very things i know i have done. "i don't know how" has been my only explanation as to how i was able to do such things. That is not very much of an explanation.

Perhaps someone can verify that i did really run full-speed, sprinting effortlessly on scarce and topply and slippery rocks up the center of the Iao River in Maui, wearing flip-flops, until i disappeared around the bend up-river, still sprinting full-speed. After that, several people made fun of me, calling me a "faerrie dancing in the woods" (because humans always hurt and harm and destroy something different from themselves). Shaureece in Texas witnessed me do this. We'd just have to find her, which is very possible, if you're really serious.

The things i have known are impossible to prove. i just *know* things, but i don't control knowing. If you were to know me long enough, you would hear me tell you things that turn out to be true and that i could not possibly know. It is impossible to know such things. I know i know. They are not guesses, and i do not will the knowing. The knowing does not come from me, and i am not its source. I know that. I also know that is impossible, yet it happens, anyway.
You would see me do things that no human athlete could ever do.
I can only invite you to see. You are invited. If you really, really want to witness, you can.
Not just me, but others, too.
then you'll know.

If you read the forums here, in the topics like "What's you super-power/gift/talent" and many others, everything you read is actually true, and you can ask those people who wrote what they can do to help you see and understand that, yes, we can do magic and impossible things, and we can know things that are impossible to know. All effortlessly. But for me, i receive; i do not command such. i do not think that 'commanding' is the nature of all of this. it does not feel that way to me, at all. i do not ever command knowing; i can simply know things that come to me, which i did not ask for. Suddenly, i just know something.
Are we "human, just different humans" ???
Just how "different" are we?
When is "different" actually "different"?

i can't define myself as human, since human is defined by intangible traits - some of which i possess and some of which i do not. What is true about and for all humans - by human self-definition - is not true about or for me. Every human will agree that 'compassion' - or the essential concept of - is an essential qualifying trait of 'human'. Therefore, by human self-definition, sociopaths are not human.
i didn't make this up; it's human compassion which can't accept that intelligent and sentient homo-sapiens which physically look human are actually not able to love, be loved, or have compassion, and so cannot qualify as 'human'.
If there a significance between being that different, and being just ...different?
How different does something have to be in order to be qualified as 'different'?
Is morality, or what we simply want tob e true, equal to what is actually true?
Where's the problem in someone being a "sociopath, but still human, but a different human" as opposed to someone instead being a "homo-sapiens which does not qualify to the definition human, and so is different than human"?

what if all living, sentient creatures on this Earth all and each suffer equally ... even if they are all completely different?
Can a homo-sapiens, which is not qualifiable as 'human', now be as actually different as they actually are, seeing as they still receive equal compassion - regardless of the fact that they, themselves, do not possess the trait of compassion?

How different am i?
i'm so different that i've spent my entire life trying to figure out what all these other people - called 'humans' - are, and why they do what they do ... and what they are really doing, because they're never, ever doing what they say or think they're doing.
i'm not like them; i'm different.
How different?
I'm actually different enough to be actually different.

You shouldn't have to just believe; you should be able to know, too. Everyone should and can.
i don't have a ready explanation; but if you refuse to believe, you won't ever see magical elves who are still innocent, you'll just see 'broken, abnormal people', and you won't ever remember who you really are, and that you told yourself to go to sleep as a child because it hurt too much to stay awake.

i am exactly the same as i was when i was a child. i died after all the other children died and i was all alone. i just remembered who i really am; i traveled for many years through all the pain and hurt to find myself again.

- the Prince of Children and Elves
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fnord - why do you even bother to look at these threads? I don't wish to offend you as everyone has a different point of view - but they do seem to get your goat somewhat...... anyway, people are talking on different levels - it's possible to believe more in than one thing/system at once you know. try super string theory for starters...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that must be it fnord - your'e a goat and don't realist it yet Wink

I'm otherkin 'shape shifter'........my dog is a dragon though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5thelement wrote:
fnord - why do you even bother to look at these threads? I don't wish to offend you as everyone has a different point of view - but they do seem to get your goat somewhat...... anyway, people are talking on different levels - it's possible to believe more in than one thing/system at once you know. try super string theory for starters...

Super ...? BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously ... it's called "String Theory", and even this is a misnomer, since a "Theory" is an idea that has been validated through repeatably verifiable physical experiments. At best, String Theory is an Hypothesis - an idea that is as yet untested. At its worse, it is merely an untestable idea - a fantasy.

I look at these threads because when someone makes an outrageous claim, I see myself as I was in the first half of my life (I am over a half-century old). Maybe by injecting my own brand of skepticism, I can draw someone a little closer to reality. Maybe ... just maybe ... someone will examine their claims and see them for what they really are; mere wishful thinking. Then, they can become a little less dependent upon people who would exploit their blind faith in things unprovable for their own gain.

As I was.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fnord - I was reffering to super string theory quite purposfully , rather than string theory........I was just trying to illustrate a point.

no matter.

I understand what your'e saying - about people becoming less dependent on people who exploit their 'blind faith' .....although I think faith is supposed to be 'blind'..........other wise it wouldn't be faith....it's a choice - however yup, there are an enourmous amount of people who very knowingly get their kicks and income out of exploiting the more vulnerable. I take your point.
I 'think' the people here are aware of this.....well, with regard to this thread. I think this thread is pretty harmless one.

I think everyone should make their own mind up as to what they believe in - although, easier said than done. What is reality for you - is not necessarily the same for someone else......... ramble ramble....

Anyway - I'm glad you feel more comfortable now - as oppose to your previous half century ...ermm you are more comfortable right?

I would have loved to have posted a more succint reply - but after a day spent at A and E yesterday, I am just a touch 'partly brain dead' Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5thelement wrote:
I understand what your'e saying - about people becoming less dependent on people who exploit their 'blind faith' .....although I think faith is supposed to be 'blind'..........other wise it wouldn't be faith....it's a choice - however yup, there are an enourmous amount of people who very knowingly get their kicks and income out of exploiting the more vulnerable. I take your point.
I 'think' the people here are aware of this.....well, with regard to this thread. I think this thread is pretty harmless one.

I think everyone should make their own mind up as to what they believe in - although, easier said than done. What is reality for you - is not necessarily the same for someone else......... ramble ramble....


Faith is a choice. I'm doing my part to make it an informed choice, and to provide some of the more naive members with some idea that there really are people in this world who will act nice now just to hurt them later.

Think of my low-level abrasiveness as a little inoculation against those people who actually enjoy hurting others.

5thelement wrote:
Anyway - I'm glad you feel more comfortable now - as oppose to your previous half century ...ermm you are more comfortable right?

As comfortable as the pain medications allow without turning me into a zombie.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnord wrote:


However, in the interest of open-mindedness, I am willing to concede the point if some draco-faerie-furry-indigo-weejee person would produce evidence to back up their statements of belief. Something other than "Prove that I'm not" or "You question my word? How RUDE!"

Or, better yet, admit that this thread was started in the hope that others would join in on a fantasy-based role-playing activity, and I will be done with it.

Please?


Fnord, just so you know, i'm the one that started this thread, and in case you haven't noticed, i haven't once suggested roleplaying. in fact i hate roleplaying games that would be done on threads anyway, i'm just not that kind of person. and also to prove that i am what i am, i have had one of the defining characteristics of being an otherkin, i have experienced phantom limb syndrome even though i still have all my limbs, the limbs i feel during these occurances are the wings and tail i've had as a dragon in a past life. if you still have something against this thread why don't you just ignore it and find something you enjoy to do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracon wrote:
... if you still have something against this thread why don't you just ignore it and find something you enjoy to do.

Oh, I have nothing against the thread, per se. It's the claims of past lives, other-species involvement, and non-human-ness - based solely on subjective dysmorphic sensations - that seem unwarranted.

Again, I'm willing to concede the existence of "Otherkin" if only one such person would provide irrefutable evidence of their claim of being something other than human; evidence that is something other than "Prove that I'm not!", "How dare you! / How Rude!", or "Just go away!".
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fnord if you were to read my last post you would see that i did give evidence to the truth other than "Prove that I'm not!", "How dare you! / How Rude!", or "Just go away!" i told you that i have phantom limb syndrome in that i can feel my wings sprouting out of my back, and many other things that prove that we are otherkin are unable to be proven by most means. so please just stop with comments asking for proof, it would be much appreciated.
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