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kit000003
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 Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: OK... just back from my diagnosis.... |
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Now... I walked out of my diagnosis almost in tears.... kinda depressed.... because he told me I didn't have Asperger's, or if i did, it was a very mild case. He said Asperger's is more profound than what I do. Then on the way home I started cracking up laughing.
This was my diagnosis. He reaffirmed my General Anxiety Disorder, added that I had OCD, and gave me ADHD as well, and said I am more depressed than I think I am. Which was why I started laughing, because I've posted on here before that anyone that can boast of getting a combo of ADHD, OCD, bipolar, scitzophrenic (sp?), depression and anxiety and has a special interest is welcome to the club. I just managed to get 4 out of 6 (and we talked at length about bipolar).
I like this guy. I want to go back. I'll have to see what vocational rehabilitation says about paying for it.
My IQ test came back as 122. I think that is kinda cool.
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quirky
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I expect to get a similar diagnosis to you, and I know I will be frustrated because I wish there was just one label I could use when trying to explain myself. I think I do suffer from mild depression, but I keep telling myself I don't. I also definitely have anxiety problems and signs of OCD - add in special interests and stimming, and that's me. I just know my psychiatrist won't see anything socially wrong with me, because a situation like that is the best possible social situation I can be in. I'm talking about an interesting topic with someone guiding the conversation, one on one with an adult. I'm focused and trusting in that situation, and talking about my own problems seriously is very easy for me. If she saw me in a situation in which I was trying to be enthusiastic about my friend getting a boyfriend or anything, she would see that my voice remains flat and I get mistaken for trying to be sarcastic, then I panic and get awkward and start babbling about myself and getting fidgety. |
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kit000003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah see, He said That An asperger's person would never be able to talk about asperger's the way I did with him. But he was guiding the conversation, and hey he's a psychologist, who better to ask questions of and listen to for things about psychology? But I liked him anyways, and he's seen other Aspergians so he must know, right? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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As long as the argumentation against AS does not only consists of 'people with AS don't talk about AS like that', he might know what he's talking about, indeed. My diagnostician complimented on my incredible insight into myself and my condition and explained that they had not seen a teen like that before, regardless of their reason to see a psychologist.
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Danielismyname
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kit000003 wrote: | | Yeah see, He said That An asperger's person would never be able to talk about asperger's the way I did with him. |
You know, I've had a couple of professionals say something similar to me, but they said I had such, it's just that I have a so-called remarkable level of insight into my own condition (it's beside the point that it took me my whole life to get there/here). It seems that many with Asperger's don't want to hear anything about it, and if you do some research, it's usually the spouse/family members who drag the [usually] men down to the professionals. I've also found it common amongst literature that states insight into one's disorder isn't common amongst those with AS.
How's your nonverbal communication? In my case, I'm so stereotypical in my lack of such that one can't deny it (lack of eye contact, no gestures, a monotone voice, odd postures, etcetera). |
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rage
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Your doctor is full of malarky. He has no idea what he's talking about. 'people with AS don't talk about AS like that' HAAAH. I guess people with AS are too retarded to properly reason their condition? You should have just walked out right there. |
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WonderWoman
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: OK... just back from my diagnosis.... |
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| kit000003 wrote: | He said Asperger's is more profound than what I do.
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Maybe in his limited experience that is true. Any condition, except pregnancy, can be mild, profound, or in-between. That's just an illogical argument. He wants to be in control and prove he's earning his keep. He doesn't want you telling him what you have, because then he'd have to pay you.
If I were you I'd see if I could find someone who knows more about Asperger's.
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Lepidoptera
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| quirky wrote: | | I just know my psychiatrist won't see anything socially wrong with me, because a situation like that is the best possible social situation I can be in. I'm talking about an interesting topic with someone guiding the conversation, one on one with an adult. I'm focused and trusting in that situation, and talking about my own problems seriously is very easy for me. If she saw me in a situation in which I was trying to be enthusiastic about my friend getting a boyfriend or anything, she would see that my voice remains flat and I get mistaken for trying to be sarcastic, then I panic and get awkward and start babbling about myself and getting fidgety. |
Yes. I'm sure I seem completely normal when the conversation is about some interest of mine. At worst maybe a little too knowledgeable. But having a conversation just for the sake of being social is another story. What frequently gets left out of these threads about social awkwardness not being a criteria for AS, is the huge amount of energy it takes for an aspie to appear normal in a purely social situation. Being social for an hour or two, especially with people I don't know, completely discharges my batteries. My brain feels like that old anti-drug commercial with the eggs in the frying pan. I doubt socializing has this affect on NTs. |
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intense
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Lepidoptera wrote: | | quirky wrote: | | I just know my psychiatrist won't see anything socially wrong with me, because a situation like that is the best possible social situation I can be in. I'm talking about an interesting topic with someone guiding the conversation, one on one with an adult. I'm focused and trusting in that situation, and talking about my own problems seriously is very easy for me. If she saw me in a situation in which I was trying to be enthusiastic about my friend getting a boyfriend or anything, she would see that my voice remains flat and I get mistaken for trying to be sarcastic, then I panic and get awkward and start babbling about myself and getting fidgety. |
Yes. I'm sure I seem completely normal when the conversation is about some interest of mine. At worst maybe a little too knowledgeable. But having a conversation just for the sake of being social is another story. What frequently gets left out of these threads about social awkwardness not being a criteria for AS, is the huge amount of energy it takes for an aspie to appear normal in a purely social situation. Being social for an hour or two, especially with people I don't know, completely discharges my batteries. My brain feels like that old anti-drug commercial with the eggs in the frying pan. I doubt socializing has this affect on NTs. |
Yes I know what you mean an hour or two socialising with people tires me out!
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kit000003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Lepidoptera wrote: | | quirky wrote: | | I just know my psychiatrist won't see anything socially wrong with me, because a situation like that is the best possible social situation I can be in. I'm talking about an interesting topic with someone guiding the conversation, one on one with an adult. I'm focused and trusting in that situation, and talking about my own problems seriously is very easy for me. If she saw me in a situation in which I was trying to be enthusiastic about my friend getting a boyfriend or anything, she would see that my voice remains flat and I get mistaken for trying to be sarcastic, then I panic and get awkward and start babbling about myself and getting fidgety. |
Yes. I'm sure I seem completely normal when the conversation is about some interest of mine. At worst maybe a little too knowledgeable. But having a conversation just for the sake of being social is another story. What frequently gets left out of these threads about social awkwardness not being a criteria for AS, is the huge amount of energy it takes for an aspie to appear normal in a purely social situation. Being social for an hour or two, especially with people I don't know, completely discharges my batteries. My brain feels like that old anti-drug commercial with the eggs in the frying pan. I doubt socializing has this affect on NTs. |
Yeah see.... I forgot to tell him about that part: a real, social conversation is physically draining. And the best conversation I ever had was with a girl with frontal lobe brain damage; her conversation was easier to follow than someone with a "normal" brain... and why do people always ask "why do you think you have asperger's?" then expect a short succint list? I didn't even finish my reasons before we moved on to another topic.
Which is actually why I want to go back to the same doc, If I see the same doc, then I don't have to reiterate all that stuff and can start from there with all the little things that I forgot. I liked him (I think he had ADD) but he actually listened, and was intelligent.
The not as profound thing was at the end of the Dx.... The amount of time spent Dx'ing me I wasn't about to just walk out, I didn't pay for it, vocational rehab did. The Dx took, in total, about 10 hours. That was with an IQ test, a personality test a learning type test (I think) and then a 3 hour talk session. This was over 3 different days.
My nonverbal isn't the best, but some things get through, but it isn't facial expressions, it is more how they are holding their hands, or whether they are fidgiting, or crossing and uncrossing their legs, but I have actually learned some of that explicitly (as in someone has told me or one of the crime shows I used to watch has told me). |
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Wolfpup
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| rage wrote: | | Your doctor is full of malarky. He has no idea what he's talking about. 'people with AS don't talk about AS like that' HAAAH. I guess people with AS are too retarded to properly reason their condition? You should have just walked out right there. |
Yup, that's an absurd statement. Having AS has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to THINK about having AS. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, from the sound of it.
Sounds similar to my experience, except mine was condensing (and I never brought up AS specifically, though my mom had), ignored test results, and announced that I was depressed because I don't go off and do social things with groups (and even right there I asked "what social things? With what groups?"). Basically he wanted me to keep coming back, paying a ton of money, so I could argue with him about whether or not I was depressed, while he was being condescending.
My IQ came out to 12x something, except I did all those tests with <4 hours sleep since I had been so nervous about the appointment. (It was 147 when my high school tested me. They thought something was wrong with me, but didn't know what, and thought maybe I wasn't intelligent I guess.) |
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Wolfpup
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Lepidoptera wrote: | | Yes. I'm sure I seem completely normal when the conversation is about some interest of mine. At worst maybe a little too knowledgeable. But having a conversation just for the sake of being social is another story. What frequently gets left out of these threads about social awkwardness not being a criteria for AS, is the huge amount of energy it takes for an aspie to appear normal in a purely social situation. Being social for an hour or two, especially with people I don't know, completely discharges my batteries. My brain feels like that old anti-drug commercial with the eggs in the frying pan. I doubt socializing has this affect on NTs. |
Yup, this is how it feels for me too, and I know TONS (most?) other people on here too. I do think that just being an introvert may cause some of this. NT introverts are already a minority group-they really are when you think about it-and discriminated against as the way they think and relate to the world is treated as inferior to the vast extrovert majority.
At any rate social situations are mostly very, very draining to me. I love being at home more than anywhere else, and just recharging. (The idiot psychologist I mentioned in the above post took this as "depression"). I was genuinly surprised when I recently learned that most people are energized/charged by social contact. I kept re-asking that, since it just seems preposterous.
That said, I do often feel energized by my OCD group. I'm pretty comfortable there now, and getting to talk about OCD related things is great.
Maybe I'd feel the same way if there was a group where I could just babble about politics or computers for 2 hours straight too! |
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Danielismyname
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| kit000003 wrote: | | My nonverbal isn't the best, but some things get through, but it isn't facial expressions, it is more how they are holding their hands, or whether they are fidgiting, or crossing and uncrossing their legs, but I have actually learned some of that explicitly (as in someone has told me or one of the crime shows I used to watch has told me). |
Well, the lack of nonverbal communication in AS goes both ways, exhibiting it and recognizing it from others [at the time of the interaction]. Since there's so many areas involved, people are bound to pick up some; I, for example can read nonverbal cues when I watch it via filmed media with ease, but this doesn't help at all when I'm actually doing it. I can also make adequate eye contact between talking and listening, but only then, not when I'm doing either of those two prior.
Was there any other reasons beside having insight into the disorder you think you have that he gave you for why he thinks you don't have it? |
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kit000003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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The only other reason I remember him giving is that I want to talk to other people. Which I do, I am just tired of getting negative response. Which is why I went to vocational rehab in the first place, so I can get help figuring out how to talk to people without them twisting my words/taking me the wrong way/just walking away from me. I don't think it is good for me not to have friends, I want friends, and it takes communication to do that.
And My current interest is psychology, so how does it come across talking to a psychologist about my own psychology? Better than most of my conversations, I am pretty sure. |
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Wolfpup
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Yeah, this guy isn't competent. Wanting to talk to people does not preclude AS. A lot of us seem to be introverts, or have given up on trying to have normal social stuff, but you can have AS and be extroverted, or any combination of that. They're not connected AFAIK.
EDIT: You know, things like this really make me mad. This guy isn't compentant, and SOOOO Many others aren't competent either, yet they get to make all this money, and misguide people. |
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