deobfuscated_aspie
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I recommend trying to get away from carbonated drinks altogether. In fact, I recommend you get away from anything acidic besides tea and juices. I make an acception to those because they have anti-oxidant and anti-cancer benefits to at least partially make up for their acidity.
Drink springwater, as it has minerals and is either alkaline, or at least has a neutral PH (7 or above is good). |
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Triangular_Trees
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If you are worried about losing weight you don't want to drink any juices as they are made from fruit, and its well established that obese people who eat fruit will have significant difficulty losing weight
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deobfuscated_aspie
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| Triangular_Trees wrote: | | ......its well established that obese people who eat fruit will have significant difficulty losing weight |
Where did you get your info? |
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Triangular_Trees
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its one of the things I came across numerous times when i was trying to figure out the link between my consumption of fruit and health problems (now known to be the sugar in the fruit lowering my seizure threshold)
Eating fruit will not make you fat, but it will make it difficult for you to loose weight.
Drinking fruit juice will significantly (from a scientifical viewpoint) increase your weight gain - though thats more believed to be other ingredients that are found in all store bought fruit juices. Not sure on the view of squeeze your own
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deobfuscated_aspie
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So eating an apple or drinking some juice during the day kills a fat-loss diet? I'm sorry but I just don't buy that. Its an extreme view and not supported by scientific data, unless I'm missing something.
There have been a multitude of studies done, however, that prove fruit juice intake doesn't contribute to obesity, and in fact is good for diets because its a better source to get some of your carbs during the day for those with a "sweet tooth". There have been a mulititude of studies done on this subject. Here's a quote from an article dealing with childhood obesity and fruit juices;
The article, authored by Carol E. O'Neil, PhD, MPH, LDN, RD, Louisiana State University, and Theresa A. Nicklas, DrPH, USDA/ARS Children's Nutrition Research Center, Baylor College of Medicine, examined 21 studies about a relationship between consumption of 100% fruit juice by children and adolescents and weight, and found "there is no systematic association between consumption of 100% fruit juice and overweight in children or adolescents."
"Health professionals and policy makers should be encouraged to objectively review the literature on all beverages and encourage consumption of healthful beverages including water, milk, and 100% fruit juice," according to the authors. "The data support the consumption of 100% fruit juice in moderate amounts, and this may be an important strategy to help children meet the current recommendations for fruit."
"The rising epidemic of overweight and obese children should be a cause for great concern amongst healthcare professionals and the public at large," said James M. Rippe, M.D., cardiologist and Editor in Chief of AJLM. "The findings that the consumption of 100% juice by children and adolescents is not associated with overweight is very important since 100% fruit juices are nutrient dense and their consumption represents an excellent way to help children meet the dietary guidelines for Americans. The article by O'Neil and Nicklas clears up misconceptions that many healthcare professionals and parents may have about this issue."
Full article can be found here;
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/108575.php
I used to drink fruit juice before a workout because I wanted an insuline spike (which is very "anabolic") during weight lifting. I found out this is nowhere near as effective as drinking something containing pure sucrose (sugar) or HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup).
BTW - Contrary to the big fearful myth that HFCS is really bad for you and different than regular sugar, studies show this ALSO is not the case. |
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tweety_fan
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| is coke zero just diet coke with different name? |
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It's Diet Coke with no calories.
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Diet Coke makes a version, using Splenda, rather than aspartame.
I'm not a big fan of fake sugar, but when I'm craving carbonated syrup, this is the one I go for.
For a healthier alternative (and a lil fizz), there's Perrier, with lemon. |
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Coke Zero is calorie free just like Diet Coke, except that it has a different taste. It is made to taste more like normal Coke. |
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wow, coke zero is bad for you?
hmm... well it's good i don't drink soda often anyways, 3-4 times a month at most
i usually don't actually get any soda, but if i do, it's a minimal amount, like when we have special occasions, or as a treat 
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Hi....
Hot on the heels of Diet Coke With Splenda comes Coca-Cola Zero. Coke Zero is sweetened with aspartame and acesulfame potassium (ace-k) and has zero calories. The only chemical difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke is that Coke Zero has about half the aspartame but has more ace-k.
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| Le_Samourai wrote: | I'm trying to lose some weight, so I've been thinking of what to eat and drink. I thought I had the drink thing down when a friend of mine said I could a lot of weight if I switched over to coke zero, since I used to drink about 4-8 cans of coca-cola a day. So I've been doing that for awhile, but then I heard that coke zero is actually worse for you.
Is this true? Mind you, I'm not on my cola ingredients so I was just wondering, is coke zero bad for you or good (or at least a better alternative than regular coke)for you? And if its bad, what would be a better alternative besides water? |
You want to lose weight? Drink water. It has zero calories and no artificial sweeteners.
It is also quite filling.
I always drink water after a meal.
I lost quite a bit of weight keeping fruit juices, sodas and alcohol out of my diet. 20 lbs in 2 months.
It really speeds up the weightless process.
Now I always drink water, rarely drink fruit juices never drink soda and err have alcohol binges on some weekends. |
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emorah_slaytron
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: H20 is the way to go... |
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Get more "sky juice" (slang in my country for water), better than artificially-sweetened-and-coloured junk anyday...
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 Why do Westerners in general seem to LOVE artificial sweeteners? My UK and US friends wouldn't touch a teaspoon of sugar, but can happily dump 3-4 packets of man-made chemicals into their tea... 
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Anna4077
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Coke Zero tastes like sh**.
I prefer pepsi max. |
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Yeah - H20 is always 1st choice! Often humans will not 'feel' thirst, or forget the need, and mild dehydration is quite common.
About Coke O? I like the occasional diet soft drink but water is always best. Sugary soft drinks are empty calories and even fruit juice has lots of calories...and sugar. Apparently asparatame can induce hunger (for some individuals) since it 'tricks' your metabolic system - aspartame may be safe but moderation is always in order.
High-fructose corn syrup is NOT good - instead whole fruits.
I guess if H20 isn't as palatable you could add a dash of reconstituted lemon or lime, mint leaf, or an herbal tea bag. Do you like seltzer water (sans the sodium)? I like water, & lots of ice!
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