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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Calling All Pagans Reply with quote

After being spiritually apathetic for years, I converted to Wicca in high school. I've felt much more fulfilled and become a better person since then. Any other Pagans here? Or other non-Christians?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mother is Wiccan.

Blessed be. Very Happy

I lean toward paganism, but I'm more or less just Religiously Inquisitive. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I identify, loosely, as pagan. I say loosely because I'm very eclectic, and because I've drawn inspiration from a variety of traditions. I would, however, still identify with the pagan ideas of Deity as immanent, of polytheism as a way of relating to different aspects of Deity, and of honoring the Earth and celebrating the seasonal festivals.

Although I'd been interested in mythology from more or less when I started reading, and alternative religions from about age 12, I became interested in Wicca at the age of about 17-18, at college. I spent some years after that broom-closeted, at least around family - I was married to someone whose mother was a fanatical, very old school Irish Catholic (long story!). I never belonged to a coven, but I met monthly for a while with a circle in London. Still have friends from within various Wiccan/pagan traditions. My husband is pagan too.

Good to see other pagans here - merry meet! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yes but certainly not wiccidikie hmph sorry I'm in a strange good mood lol.

But in all seriousness, I do believe it is important for those like us to not forget our original identity that has kept our beliefs alive for all these years.. Personally I see these "new versions" of the old ways twisted, but apparently thats just me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Calling All Pagans Reply with quote

MrCellophane wrote:
After being spiritually apathetic for years, I converted to Wicca in high school. I've felt much more fulfilled and become a better person since then. Any other Pagans here? Or other non-Christians?

Is there a particular reason for this opposition to Christianity? Is your religion based on actively opposing mine?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Calling All Pagans Reply with quote

Orwell wrote:

Is there a particular reason for this opposition to Christianity? Is your religion based on actively opposing mine?
No, actually many people believe it is the other way around. Many Christians have been known to look at something Pagan, and immediately give it the label "devil worship" and so forth, without ever actually thinking about what they are saying. Am I saying all are like this? No. There will always be those who say they don't want to offend anything no matter what for the sake of sounding like the innocent one (which is not exactly logical), but no, not all will try to be offensive towards our ways. What it is based on is preserving our beliefs, after those who worshiped christ invaded our lands and raped our traditions.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Calling All Pagans Reply with quote

v0lume wrote:
Orwell wrote:

Is there a particular reason for this opposition to Christianity? Is your religion based on actively opposing mine?
No, actually many people believe it is the other way around. Many Christians have been known to look at something Pagan, and immediately give it the label "devil worship" and so forth, without ever actually thinking about what they are saying. Am I saying all are like this? No. There will always be those who say they don't want to offend anything no matter what (which is not exactly logical), but no, not all will try to be offensive towards our ways. What it is based on is preserving our beliefs, after those who worshiped christ invaded our lands and raped our traditions.

Well, if you don't want it to be that way, stop using the term "Pagan" to describe your beliefs. That is far too broad a categorization to be of any use and the term Pagan came into use explicitly to describe non-Christian beliefs. Originally it referred more to the Greco-Roman mythology but its meaning has expanded since then.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Pagan'

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/burmese/Cooler/Chapter_3/Part1/pagan_period_1.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orwell wrote:

Well, if you don't want it to be that way, stop using the term "Pagan" to describe your beliefs. That is far too broad a categorization to be of any use and the term Pagan came into use explicitly to describe non-Christian beliefs. Originally it referred more to the Greco-Roman mythology but its meaning has expanded since then.

Of course I am referring to the various subcultures/beliefs divided by geographical locations etc Rolling Eyes Of course no one can just be "Pagan", there are more than one kind. I was just using a generalization.
And actually it wasn't originally called "mythology".
The main idea though for some is, that they are all the same gods, just with slight differences, to appeal to the various cultures of man.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chever wrote:
'Pagan'

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/burmese/Cooler/Chapter_3/Part1/pagan_period_1.htm

Pagan is derived from the Latin paganus. That city's name is likely a coincidence.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Calling All Pagans Reply with quote

MrCellophane wrote:
After being spiritually apathetic for years, I converted to Wicca in high school. I've felt much more fulfilled and become a better person since then. Any other Pagans here? Or other non-Christians?


I took up Wicca in high school as well. I started attending pagan festivals in college and thought "These are my people"--there's a higher concentration of spectrum folks in the pagan community and a high degree of tolerance for difference in general there. Although my path has led me to another branch of the Western esoteric tradition, I still feel comfortable being labeled under the umbrella term of "Pagan".
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orwell wrote:
chever wrote:
'Pagan'

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/burmese/Cooler/Chapter_3/Part1/pagan_period_1.htm

Pagan is derived from the Latin paganus. That city's name is likely a coincidence.


It's still cool. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pheonixiis wrote:
Orwell wrote:
chever wrote:
'Pagan'

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/burmese/Cooler/Chapter_3/Part1/pagan_period_1.htm

Pagan is derived from the Latin paganus. That city's name is likely a coincidence.


It's still cool. Razz
How could something like that "prove it wrong" though, all religion names derive from something. Although I don't believe this thread was meant to turn into a belief fight, with certain people barging in sometimes it can't be helped and there is a lot of "explaining" to be done.. But no matter..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

v0lume wrote:
pheonixiis wrote:
Orwell wrote:
chever wrote:
'Pagan'

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/burmese/Cooler/Chapter_3/Part1/pagan_period_1.htm

Pagan is derived from the Latin paganus. That city's name is likely a coincidence.


It's still cool. Razz
How could something like that "prove it wrong" though, all religion names derive from something. Although I don't believe this thread was meant to turn into a belief fight, with certain people barging in sometimes it can't be helped and there is a lot of "explaining" to be done.. But no matter..

I wasn't attempting to prove anything wrong; just saying that Pagan is an inaccurate and overly broad term that, for the sake of clarity of expression, should not be used.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was talking mostly about how pheonixiis (I know pheonixiis was not being offensive) said "It's still cool" as if they interpreted what you said as something that takes validity out of Paganism.
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