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Spokane_Girl
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | It's happen to me before. My friend growing up was the type that would say she didn't like something someone liked as a way of expressing her dislike for that person without saying she actually disliked them. She wanted everyone to like what she wanted and she didn't want to ever return the favor which is one idiosyncracy she had I didn't really like.
I realize it isn't the same thing. I have done both before. I have disliked something someone I dislike dislikes and I have innocently expressed not liking something someone likes.
What I do when I say I don't like something someone else likes without realizing they like it before hand is say immediately after they tell me "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize that's your favorite show" or whatever. |
You posted as I was making my post. I never realized people can say they hate a TV show or a movie to express their dislike for the person.
I would still tell them "I am entitled to my opinion. If I don't like the show I don't like it. It has nothing to do with you. It's not your show." |
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: |
You posted as I was making my post. I never realized people can say they hate a TV show or a movie to express their dislike for the person.
I would still tell them "I am entitled to my opinion. If I don't like the show I don't like it. It has nothing to do with you. It's not your show." |
I grew up with both directness and passive aggression from people. My friend was passive aggressive about some things and direct about others. She was direct about being passive aggressive, as in, very open in declaring that she didn't like something I did. |
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Vexcalibur
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Robot chicken IS Awful, it wouldn't be rude if it wasn't true...
Robot chicken is quite anti-PC I don't get why would a Robot chicken fan would like you to be careful not to offend them, that goes so against the spirit of the show...
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Spokane_Girl
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote: | | Spokane_Girl wrote: |
You posted as I was making my post. I never realized people can say they hate a TV show or a movie to express their dislike for the person.
I would still tell them "I am entitled to my opinion. If I don't like the show I don't like it. It has nothing to do with you. It's not your show." |
I grew up with both directness and passive aggression from people. My friend was passive aggressive about some things and direct about others. She was direct about being passive aggressive, as in, very open in declaring that she didn't like something I did. |
So did I. I knew this boy in my neighborhood and he was occasionally nice to me. I got it from a few others too and it would confuse me but yet felt good at the same time to even care. What did they want from me? Oh the boy had no one to play with so he played with me because I was alone and the only way to gain it was niceness. |
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tcorrielus
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| Kirska wrote: | | tcorrielus wrote: | | I would actually be offended if someone said "I hate America" or "America SUCKS!" right in front of me. |
I'm married to an anti-American Canadian and my extended family is very gung-ho yay America republicans.
Thankfully I have told him on many occasions to just not bring it up. |
I don't understand this. If you're an American, then how the hell do you get along with an anti-American Canadian? Do you get offend when he says F**K USA???? |
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ike
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | But I was insulted when my ex said Sam was an idiot because of his poor spelling and how he functioned. Uh there are people out there like that who have that disability and I could relate to him about his obsessions so I felt he was putting me down. |
I remember one day at my last job seeing a coworker watching a youtube video of a kid who had won a spelling bee or the like. He was in his early teens maybe and struggling through a conversation with a news reporter. She was laughing and made the comment that "this kid is really retarded". I made the comment that it seemed like he was likely autistic. Everyone in the office knew that I have AS because I made the decision to be very up-front about it. I explained it in my cover letter. Ultimately they fired me for things that I had warned them about in advance. But when I mentioned that the kid seemed likely autistic she didn't even flinch. There wasn't any response at all.
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Fnord
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: This is considered rude?? |
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| ShadesOfMe wrote: | | My brother has his girlfriend over. They came out of his room, and said they were watching "robot chicken" I said "urg, i hate that show" They got all upset and assumed I was saying it because it is his grilfriends favorite show. I didn't know it was! So my mom tells me to call them for dinner, and I do, and a few minutes later she says, "where are they?" and I say "they are watching that horrible robot chicken." and my mom got all angry and said it is mean and rude to say that. it is??? did i make a big social no no here? |
Rudeness, it seems, is in the eyes of the recipient.
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Kirska
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| tcorrielus wrote: | | I don't understand this. If you're an American, then how the hell do you get along with an anti-American Canadian? Do you get offend when he says F**K USA???? |
I'm not exactly overflowing with pride in my country. Not ashamed of it or anything, but I know and can accept the fact that a LOT of the world hates us. Meh, whatever.
Going through the legal immigration process with someone in the US makes you like the country a lot less, as well.
It doesn't offend me in general, but if he goes on and on about it, then I start to get annoyed.
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violet_yoshi
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: This is considered rude?? |
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| ShadesOfMe wrote: | My brother has his girlfriend over. They came out of his room, and said they were watching "robot chicken" I said "urg, i hate that show" They got all upset and assumed I was saying it because it is his grilfriends favorite show. I didn't know it was! So my mom tells me to call them for dinner, and I do, and a few minutes later she says, "where are they?" and I say "they are watching that horrible robot chicken." and my mom got all angry and said it is mean and rude to say that.
it is??? did i make a big social no no here? |
I'd ask your mom if it's mean and rude for your brother and his girlfriend, to watch a show that routinely makes fun of people like yourself by calling them "retards". |
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Spokane_Girl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: Re: This is considered rude?? |
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| violet_yoshi wrote: | | ShadesOfMe wrote: | My brother has his girlfriend over. They came out of his room, and said they were watching "robot chicken" I said "urg, i hate that show" They got all upset and assumed I was saying it because it is his grilfriends favorite show. I didn't know it was! So my mom tells me to call them for dinner, and I do, and a few minutes later she says, "where are they?" and I say "they are watching that horrible robot chicken." and my mom got all angry and said it is mean and rude to say that.
it is??? did i make a big social no no here? |
I'd ask your mom if it's mean and rude for your brother and his girlfriend, to watch a show that routinely makes fun of people like yourself by calling them "retards". |
That's a good comeback. |
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MemberSix
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I don't know what gets me more annoyed : that people are dumb enough to be offended at someone expressing a distate for their preferred viewing/country/fill-in-the-blank or that your own mother would actually uphold the offendee's right to be offended.
I'd have pulled anyone up on that one - mother or no.
Being socially disabled should mean you get guidance/correction (if not moral support - GASP!) ... but I guess parents were never counsellors at the best of times.
OTOH, being 'offended' at stuff is also a time-honoured form of passive aggression.
(Islamic fundamentalist rabble-rousers spring to mind here). |
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DwightF
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: This is considered rude?? |
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| ShadesOfMe wrote: | | My brother has his girlfriend over. They came out of his room, and said they were watching "robot chicken" I said "urg, i hate that show" |
Was it necessary to share that information? Were they asking you to watch? Sure this was your opinion and "truth". But not all truths need to be spoken. Same thing with pointing out that Robot Chicken is "horrible". Extraneous information. It could be truth (it certainly is a defendable subjective opinion in this case  ) but the need to be said might be low.
The guess about tone of voice that someone had earlier is likely a good one, or it could be that and body language. Another guess could be the context of whether or not you have talked about this before. If you repeat this sort of thing too much, negative opinions of things or about Robot Chicken itself and the repetition tends to be seen in a poorer light. A whiner.
Or you live with some over-sensitive and/or hypocritical jerks. Or you unknowingly annoyed them or did something rude earlier in the day and exhausted your share of good will. Or they were having a bad day, or there was some other stress at play for them. *shrug* Plus being overly defensive/offensive around the feelings of a GF/BF isn't unheard of. They way you describe it it their reaction sounds a bit overblown. But really hard to say without being there and without more info from your brother and mother.
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DeLoreanDude
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| gramirez wrote: | | If I had a nickel for everytime someone said that TO ME, I'd be rich. People are always saying "I hate that <insert thing here>" to me. So honestly, if everyone else says it, I don't see how it can be rude. |
I agree with this - they are being stupid... The same stuff happens to me, too, and I hate it! |
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ike
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: This is considered rude?? |
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| violet_yoshi wrote: | | I'd ask your mom if it's mean and rude for your brother and his girlfriend, to watch a show that routinely makes fun of people like yourself by calling them "retards". |
I must not have seen any of those sketches. The teenage "nerd" stereotype character isn't particularly entertaining, but even though he's a repeat character he doesn't dominate the show or anything. Most of their material is non-serial, like the sketch showing a snail with a bullhorn and a flashing red light on the top of his shell chasing another snail, yelling "puuuuuuuulllllll oooooooooovvvvvveeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr".
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You know what's really rude? Calling someone a whore.
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