alcockell
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 Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: Can an Aspie legally consent to sex? |
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Hi folks,
With legislation worded something like the "Protection of Vulnerable..." coming in, it seems quite scary as an Aspie adult.
I hold down a responsible job, with help from NAS Prospects... I'm registered disabled...
But, as an Aspie - will I be legally allowed to consent to sex? If I were to consider getting involved with someone - or would it be the case that I would not be legally allowed to give consent?
I'm 38, by the way.
This seems like the definition used - http://www.torfaen.gov.uk/HealthAndSocialCare/ServicesForOlderPeople/VulnerableAdults/Definition.aspx
THoughts? |
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JohnHopkins
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| Either way, someone has to press charges for the crime to come to court. |
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alcockell
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| For the record, I've always been the "brother-figure" - never had a relationship... |
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Tahitiii
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Where is this? The only clue is the "gov.uk" in the address.
At a glance, I would say that their definition can be applied to everyone on the planet. Then it adds:
"A person's vulnerability will depend on their circumstances and environment, and each case must be considered individually. "
I want to believe that you have nothing to worry about. |
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psych
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Maybe this is just the angle ive been lacking? ive never considered it from a statutory point of view before.
im going to walk into a solicitors office 1st thing 9am tomorrow, flap my hands a bit and proclaim 'I LEGALLY CONSENT TO SEX' & ill keep saying it, until i get some!  |
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sharlyn
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Just having AS doesn't make you non-consenting. I work for the disabled and we have anyone that is undetermined to be interviewed by a psychologist to determine your understanding about sex, your responsibilities and consequences. From that they determine your capacity to consent. Just the fact that you knew enough to ask these questions tells me you're consenting. My bf is AS and he was married to an attorney and they have a child.
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Cyberman
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Excellent, now I'll have an excuse for my life-long virginity other than being a "hopeless loser."  |
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Woodpecker
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I think that sharlyn is right, if you can understand what sex is, your responsibilities and consequences (the girl might have a baby) then I think that the person is able to give consent.
I know that to be not considered legally responsible for a criminal act (not guilty by reason of insanity) you have to be very insane. You could consider if the person is sane for the purposes of crminal law that they should be sane for the purposes of saying yes to sex.
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| Woodpecker wrote: | | I think that sharlyn is right, if you can understand what sex is, your responsibilities and consequences (the girl might have a baby) then I think that the person is able to give consent. |
By that definition, there are many normal ADULTS who shouldn't be allowed to consent... |
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mechanima
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Can an Aspie legally consent to sex? |
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| alcockell wrote: |
But, as an Aspie - will I be legally allowed to consent to sex? |
Good Lord! I sincerely hope so! Otherwise...well, let's just say, I did a bad, BAD thing...more than once too...
...and it gets worse...because these are all listed as "vulnerable people" too:
Misuses drugs and/or alcohol
Has social or emotional problems
Exhibits challenging behaviour
...and frankly, that looks like a summary of my exes... |
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mechanima
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| psych wrote: | Maybe this is just the angle ive been lacking? ive never considered it from a statutory point of view before.
im going to walk into a solicitors office 1st thing 9am tomorrow, flap my hands a bit and proclaim 'I LEGALLY CONSENT TO SEX' & ill keep saying it, until i get some! |
...oh and...
Good Luck with that...
*howling laughing* |
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Postperson
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| interesting question. |
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pavel_filonov
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Can an Aspie legally consent to sex? |
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| alcockell wrote: | Hi folks,
With legislation worded something like the "Protection of Vulnerable..." coming in, it seems quite scary as an Aspie adult.
I hold down a responsible job, with help from NAS Prospects... I'm registered disabled...
But, as an Aspie - will I be legally allowed to consent to sex? If I were to consider getting involved with someone - or would it be the case that I would not be legally allowed to give consent?
I'm 38, by the way.
This seems like the definition used - http://www.torfaen.gov.uk/HealthAndSocialCare/ServicesForOlderPeople/VulnerableAdults/Definition.aspx
THoughts? |
The link you've given doesn't seem to say anything about you being able to give your consent... it seems to be advice for people who think that a vulnerable person they know might be being abused. So, if people around you considered that a relationship you were in was abusive, they might want to report it through those channels. I guess people could use it as a rationale for being interfering but I don't think it changes your legal right to do anything. |
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mitharatowen
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Who cares! Let's f**k!
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Let's f**k what?     
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