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05 Apr 2009, 5:20 pm

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Global Research, April 3, 2009

Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusuions of this important article. The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
pp.7-31 (25) Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen
doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Abstract:
We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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05 Apr 2009, 5:34 pm

Aluminum paint is used as a rust inhibitor on steel.

It will burn far below the temperature for Thermite, because it is paint.

True Thermite exotherms at 5,200 Degrees F.

The material described can be found on any silver bridge.



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05 Apr 2009, 7:11 pm

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Aluminum paint is used as a rust inhibitor on steel.

It will burn far below the temperature for Thermite, because it is paint.

True Thermite exotherms at 5,200 Degrees F.

The material described can be found on any silver bridge.


I thought they were saying that the aluminium was burnt off and the residue was found to be unreacted thermite - I'd hope that's not found on every silver bridge.

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05 Apr 2009, 7:46 pm

You would expect to find thermite in the dust from the towers... they were made of aluminum and steel, which are the basic components of thermite...



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05 Apr 2009, 11:20 pm

An incindiary mixture of iron and aluminum would not be uniformly spread throughout the building and throughout the debris. There are a lot of ways to end up with a combination of iron and aluminum. The people on that website you posted seem paranoid (and I'd be one to know), or at least they are very sloppy in verifying their sources from other people that need to go take their meds.


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06 Apr 2009, 7:27 am

John_Browning wrote:
An incindiary mixture of iron and aluminum would not be uniformly spread throughout the building and throughout the debris. There are a lot of ways to end up with a combination of iron and aluminum. The people on that website you posted seem paranoid (and I'd be one to know), or at least they are very sloppy in verifying their sources from other people that need to go take their meds.


Yes, it is quite something that all samples contained this trace of incendiary material.

Michel Chossudovsky is relatively established now and respectable to mention in political discussion, I thought.

The website is multilingual.

Paranoid - depends on how you look at it and to what degree are absorbing the relevant infos from which to make the claim. Making a grand sweeping generalisation because you had a glance at a website doesn't help anyone, really. The website isn't anywhere near as sloppy as you claim.

And slagging of the website that carries the article doesn't really have anything to do with the paper or it's findings either.



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06 Apr 2009, 9:11 am

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You would expect to find thermite in the dust from the towers... they were made of aluminum and steel, which are the basic components of thermite...


when the 'aluminum' and iron oxide was burnt off the remaining 'red chip' residue was found to be 'unreacted thermitic material' and 'highly energetic', present in all different samples analysed.



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06 Apr 2009, 7:43 pm

Concenik wrote:
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An incindiary mixture of iron and aluminum would not be uniformly spread throughout the building and throughout the debris. There are a lot of ways to end up with a combination of iron and aluminum. The people on that website you posted seem paranoid (and I'd be one to know), or at least they are very sloppy in verifying their sources from other people that need to go take their meds.


Yes, it is quite something that all samples contained this trace of incendiary material.

Have you considered that it would take years and an army of people to plant thermite on the surfaces of all the walls and crawlspaces of both towers, and that someone would have noticed something funny going on that way? The more people involved in a conspiracy, the less practical it becomes.


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06 Apr 2009, 8:07 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Concenik wrote:
Have you considered that it would take years and an army of people to plant thermite on the surfaces of all the walls and crawlspaces of both towers, and that someone would have noticed something funny going on that way? The more people involved in a conspiracy, the less practical it becomes.


To a conspiracy nut the lack of credible proof is absolute proof of th conspiracy. If there is no evidence for the conspiracy that show just how clever the conspirators are.

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06 Apr 2009, 9:15 pm

the fact that two large airliners collided with the towers, constructed of aluminum, could account for some of that. The steel used in the girders would account for that as well. Thermite is not an oxide, as I (and a certain author) thought, but I do beleive it's AlO3, instead (any chemists, step in and pull the foot from my mouth at your leisure..;)

Kerosene (avaition fuel, 100 octane) was the thermitic (thermitic? containing or generating temperature?) or accellerant that produced the intense heat that caused the reactions that
make up the debris.

I'm afraid it's two airliners hit the towers like big missles, and things caught fire, the girders weakened, and the whole thing came crashing down. Space Nazis, Masons, Trilateralists, or Bavarian Illuminati were not involved...



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07 Apr 2009, 5:47 am

John_Browning wrote:
Concenik wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
An incindiary mixture of iron and aluminum would not be uniformly spread throughout the building and throughout the debris. There are a lot of ways to end up with a combination of iron and aluminum. The people on that website you posted seem paranoid (and I'd be one to know), or at least they are very sloppy in verifying their sources from other people that need to go take their meds.


Yes, it is quite something that all samples contained this trace of incendiary material.

Have you considered that it would take years and an army of people to plant thermite on the surfaces of all the walls and crawlspaces of both towers, and that someone would have noticed something funny going on that way? The more people involved in a conspiracy, the less practical it becomes.


Don't be obsequious JOhn, no one's suggesting that to rig the building every single surface of crawl space needed to be wired up. It is only YOUR CONJECTURE that every single surface would need to be wired up to result in the thermite material being found in all samples.

The building could be rigged quite easily. There was a 2 week security drill 3 weeks before the event. There was 'the B thing' and it also could have been wired after the first attempt which was facilitated by the FBI beyond a point as the Egyptian recorded the conversation's with his handler - remember?

Because people think they are coming from the official side of opinion they can talk nonsense - it doesn't wash anymore.



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07 Apr 2009, 5:51 am

ruveyn wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
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Have you considered that it would take years and an army of people to plant thermite on the surfaces of all the walls and crawlspaces of both towers, and that someone would have noticed something funny going on that way? The more people involved in a conspiracy, the less practical it becomes.


To a conspiracy nut the lack of credible proof is absolute proof of th conspiracy. If there is no evidence for the conspiracy that show just how clever the conspirators are.

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what a waste of words. You obviously don't know the first thing about compilation and deduction. By the way this IS evidence but people like you keep looking for a way to explain it away - feverishly - rather than have the intelligence of an open mind to first consider it - you hav e your hands on your ears and you are walking round with your eyes closed and hands on your ears saying 'no,no,no,no' it is SAD.



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07 Apr 2009, 6:04 am

8O



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pakled wrote:
the fact that two large airliners collided with the towers, constructed of aluminum, could account for some of that. The steel used in the girders would account for that as well. Thermite is not an oxide, as I (and a certain author) thought, but I do beleive it's AlO3, instead (any chemists, step in and pull the foot from my mouth at your leisure..;)

Kerosene (avaition fuel, 100 octane) was the thermitic (thermitic? containing or generating temperature?) or accellerant that produced the intense heat that caused the reactions that
make up the debris.

I'm afraid it's two airliners hit the towers like big missles, and things caught fire, the girders weakened, and the whole thing came crashing down. Space Nazis, Masons, Trilateralists, or Bavarian Illuminati were not involved...


considering statements like 'path of least resistance' and 'equal and opposite reaction' perhaps you can explain the collapse. You seem to think thw girders just kept getting hotter and then they weakened. This completely leaves out the ASPECT of hear tranferrence where basically the steel would be transferring the heat throughout WIDER AREA - like connected steel does :roll: :roll:

Nicwe footprint! Guess 'the path of least resistance' was for the section of tower above the explosions to pile through the 90+ intact floors and fprce everything the ground.

Well! That seems plausible! So many of you guys talk about physices but seem to have a mindlock on the the simplest applications of it.




I'm afraid it's two airliners hit the towers like big missles, and things caught fire, the girders weakened, and the whole thing came crashing down. Space Nazis, Masons, Trilateralists, or Bavarian Illuminati were not involved...
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Yawn, another joker trying to get a laugh for their ego. Don't talk sh*ite on my thread unless you are prepared. You know nothing about the issues it is clear. Using a severley reductionist principle to comfortably 'inform' you're ownself does not excuse walking round like a brainless popculture bullhorn spewing IGNORANT CRAP onto my thread.

The line I've quoted above makes it patently clear you are looking for laughs are completely ignorant and too closed minded for the discussion at hand.

feel free to just FO :twisted:



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07 Apr 2009, 6:07 am

FFS elements within the fbi were exposed as having complicity in the first WTC bombing - BEYOND DOUBT - ie they were caught bang to rights talking about planting a real bomb on AUDIO TAPE!!

The FBI agent exploring dodgy aspects of the Oklahoma bombing, things that did just did not add up in the official report - he was taken off the case and reassigned as one of the chiefs of security at the WTC first day at work 911. Bye bye to him then.

If you can't see what is happening - if you are TOO DUMB - that is a shame. But don't come here to my threads and talk twaddle about Weishaupt or any of that sh8t as I will pull you to pieces, we have had to put up with such inane crap for too long and I don't take it.

If you're considering posting on this thread to make some dumbass comment about 'space nazi's' or 'alien's did it' - basically to just take the pi8s - then don't bother wasting the server space. This thread is for proper discussion not dive bomb attacks from morons trying to look cool and conformist.



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07 Apr 2009, 8:41 am

wise up 8O :twisted:


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The Open Chemical Physics Journal

Volume 2
ISSN: 1874-4125

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
pp.7-31 (25) Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen
doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Abstract


We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Keywords: JScanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, Differential scanning calorimetry, DSC analysis, World Trade Center, WTC dust, 9/11, Iron-rich microspheres, Thermite, Super-thermite, Energetic nanocomposites, Nano-thermite
Affiliation: Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, DK-2100, Denmark.


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