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nodice1996
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: Nearly beaten up, please help me deter this. |
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About ten minutes ago I was leaving to do my paper route, was at my first customers house, and someone came up to me and tried to beat me up. I managed to run away from the person, but this is not the first time something like this has happened. Can anyone give me suggestions on how to deter people from attempting battery on me. Preferably ones that would go into effect immediately.
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deadeyexx
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| More information needed. Who was it? Why would you think they might do this? If someone's got it in for you, see if you can correct the reason. |
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ViperaAspis
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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If you're doing a public route in a seedy neighborhood, you might want to consider packing some kind of deterrent. NOT A WEAPON, but something less pleasant.
Self-defense tactics can come in helpful. Speak commands in a loud, strong voice "NO! BACK AWAY! LEAVE ME ALONE!". There are other good suggestions online. If that fails or if your assailant has grabbed your bike, use 'the deterrent'. Is it legal to carry mace in your state at your age? If not, pack a whistle or other loud noisemaker.
And watch out for this guy. Especially if you are muscley-armed:
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cyberscan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Wasp spay may work wonders, especially if sprayed into the eyes of an assailant, but remember, sight is a precious thing. Since you ride a bike, a key chain full of keys suspended on a lanyard make a great weapon, and it is a dual purpose item as well. Something like this is useful in areas where the government does not heed the 2nd amendment.
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zombiesandwhatnot
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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if it happens again don't run kick them as hard as you can in the nuts and then kick them in the face for good measure  |
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nodice1996
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I talked to the police about this. They don't take it very seriously. However I found out another person I have had the same problem with is causing more trouble with other people from the police, though they refuse to help me, and have seen both of these people together. I am being targeted mainly because of the symptoms of aspergers that I show. Wasp spray or mace would get me in trouble with the law more than it would do good. If there were some way I could get everyone to respect me, or fear me then I would no longer have these problems.
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Gifted-Monster
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Fear works well but can result in insurrection.
Respect isn't likely either.
Aren't there provisions for self-defence within your constitution and law?
So long as you act in self-defence in a manner approrpriate then you are fine.
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AndiBone
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Assert yourself. Carry mace, if you use it you have to give a warning but as long and they've had a warning it's fine. If it's a male kick in the nuts. Just do what the addrenilin rush tells you.  |
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lelia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Take a self defense class as well as maybe a martial art class. If you can't find a self defense class for teen, community colleges often have a self defense class for women. I would go. You learn how to use keys to deter an assailant and suchlike.
Start lifting weights with a coach to make sure you don't hurt yourself.
Carry yourself like you are busy and know exactly what you are doing. Bullies can sense fear from a mile away.
I wonder if the police would care more if the two of you complained together? Would the newspaper be interested in helping the two of you?
I'm so sorry you are in this position. |
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pschristmas
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Mace may not be legal, but pepper spray is. Check online for your state's restrictions. Also, carry a large metal whistle or other noise maker. The last thing these guys want is for someone else to see what's going on. If you have a cell phone, put 911 on speed dial and carry it with you on your route; if you don't have one, talk to your parents about getting one or using one of their cells for protection while you're out and about. Let them know you don't want it so you can chat with your buddies, but for protection from personal violence.
The police, unfortunately, can't really do anything until the people actually do something illegal. It's not so much that they don't want to help, but that they can't right now. The fact that they told you someone else had complained suggests they are aware of the person and are watching him.
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cyberscan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I key ring with a lot of keys on it makes an excellent weapon. You can carry it in your hand and have a key sticking out between each finger. These make one hell of a cutting or stabbing instrument when combined with a punch. for added protection, having the key ring attached to a lanyard allows you to be able to swing these keys like a club. Best of all, this is a weapon that is disguised as a common item. A sharpened pencil also make a good stabbing instrument as well. Learning the black arts (not witchcraft but trade craft) will give you the self confidence to not look like prey.
As far as cellphones are concerned, prepaid ones can be had for as little as 10 dollars. Even a cellphone with no service can be used to dial 911. This is another thing you should consider. Another option is to give the big bully a nice hug while you bite his nose off. If you do find that you have to become violent, don't just make one strike. Keep striking as many times as you can until the threat is completely neutralized and get out of the area. You may also want to make sure you wear medical alert jewelry and carry a medical identification card disclosing your autism. This will put you at a legal advantage if and when you have to deal with the police for defending yourself. I made a website that allows you to print up a medical alert identification card at no cost http://www.plaza1.net/autexample.html.
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Biene
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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You poor thing....how about a "personal alarm"?
They come as keychain alarms, or some have a light with a string that you pull out and then it makes a real loud noise...they are fairly inexpensive...
You don't have an older brother or sister that could take care of things?
When I was your age noone would bother me twice and it makes me real mad that these punks are bothering you...
Did you tell your parents, you have to tell someone who then can come up with a plan that works for you?!
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Nantarctica
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: The Peace Core |
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: The Peace Core
There's an important social skill under the microscope here. Most of us, Aspie or not, are raised in a culture that teaches and promotes agression, fear, conflict: the adversary philosophy. But the reality of human relationships is, we attract what we project. In other words, when we project fear, we attract people that want to activate that, and we become adversaries.
In addition to learning the niceties of social interaction, we have an opportunity and a requirement and a gift to learn peace. This means peace must be at our core so that peace is what we are projecting.
For parents, it may require a re-thinking of what "spacing out" actually is: meditation. In this state the person is receiving spiritual sensations and determining a proper response to them. It is like a mathematician pondering an equation, or a physician examining a patient. In this condition, the better the foundation the scientist has in his craft, the more likely s/he is to arrive at valid conclusions and in a timely fashion.
When we use adversarial philosophies to examine a situation in meditation, we are only exascerbating the wound. The key of the scientist's training is aquiring skill in a mental discipline that is proven effective. In human relationships this discipline is love.
There are innumerable texts that teach the science of love. For myself I found satisfaction in the simple works of Peace Pilgrim and a method of verbal interaction called Tactical Communications.
Like others, Aspies learn best through example, so it is extremely helpful when parents adopt loving attitudes and practice them, and recognize that non-loving words and actions cannot extricate their children from fruitless patterns of response to challenging situations.
Finally, I believe we need all the friends we can get. When can we feel better than when a friend asks us for help and we are able to give help? You have parents to consult with. And please do not keep the situation from your employer. It is likely s/he has had the same experience and can give you sound advice.
God bless and good fortune! |
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nodice1996
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I have a cell phone, I can get a whistle, and I DO NOT want to use violence if I am not already under battery.
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ViperaAspis
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| nodice1996 wrote: | | I have a cell phone, I can get a whistle, and I DO NOT want to use violence if I am not already under battery. |
Sounds like your thinking is right on track. Unusual wisdom for only thirteen years on the path.
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