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SystemDown
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 Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: Why are macho guys such jerks to nonmacho guys? |
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exhausted
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IMO? because they're insecure idiots.
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BitterGeek
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| It's about power plays and being the alpha. Observe primates where you have strong and weak members of a group. |
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SystemDown
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| I just hate the idea that macho guys commonly have that machoness makes them superior. It doesn't. |
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buryuntime
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| SystemDown wrote: | | I just hate the idea that macho guys commonly have that machoness makes them superior. It doesn't. |
How is it not when most people think that they are superior? |
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AceOfSpades
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| Masculinity is a very competitive thing, and it basically encourages a "survival of the fittest" mentality. What defines a real alpha? I don't know. I don't even know if society's definition of an alpha is congruent with biology. |
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fiddlerpianist
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| buryuntime wrote: | | SystemDown wrote: | | I just hate the idea that macho guys commonly have that machoness makes them superior. It doesn't. |
How is it not when most people think that they are superior? |
The valuable people in this world do not and are not attracted to machoism.
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phil777
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Except "survival of the fittest" does not necessarly imply being masculine. It implies having the necessary skill to survive in a given environnement, allowing "fit" individuals to reproduce. What does not work here probably works elsewhere. Keep that in mind. =P
Besides, unless the macho in question can compensate for his lack of intelligence, stability / dependability and commitment, then he might not keep a couple / family alive long enough for him to reproduce |
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AGMorehouse
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Probably because they like to think they are of better status than us- they look down on anyone who may have like immature interests, or they may think they are more mature than the little guy, but the truth is they are not. They are selfish, egotistic, and unhappy.
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Nim
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| I'm a metrosexual construction worker. Which makes me a macho non macho.. |
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mikemmlj
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Read the book "The Dominant Male" it is an amazing read about how men jockey for position, power, and prestige among each other.
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Apple_in_my_Eye
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It's interesting that it's the sort of thing that becomes true because of consensus, with objective reasons usually being unimportant. In the modern world people are rarely tested in true terms, so style and bluster is often more important than demonstrated ability or demonstrated character. Or, at the very least, style & bluster are (overly) influential adjuncts to whatever demonstrated ability or character someone shows.
I was in my 30's before I had a clue about the rules of that game (and not that I could 'play' it when I did, but I could at least see how it works). As someone else has said, it is amazing how males are set up to compete against each other in essentially all male-male interactions. |
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Iblis
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Macho guys secretly wanna bang non macho guys.
But since it's not accepted in society, it translates to bullying.
Simple as that. |
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Michjo
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| Most overly macho-guys who bully overs are usually closet homosexuals. They bully non-macho people as a way of saying "Look, he's not manly!", it's a way of keeping people's eyes away themselves. |
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Warsie
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Because it's MANLY to pick on the lamers 
Also the whole 'im aggressive, I'm bad-ass and I don't give a f**k' and showing your manliness by getting into verbal or physical conflict to let off aggression, have fun, etc.
this song is kind've related on the hyper macho mentality to the point of lulz. Then again many rappers have stated they exxagerate the machoness in some cases for effect.
http://music.metafilter.com/2380/Punch-Em-In-The-Dick-NSFW-lyrics
Oh, and some of what other people here said too
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