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tk5800
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: left 4 dead 2 banned in australia |
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left 4 dead 2 was banned in australia, it has been reviewed and is now cencored
but, what is considered R18+ in america might only be MA15+ in australia, another point is australia is behind in gaming classifacation, we dont have an R18+ rating for games, hence the l4d2 ban.
i think we should allow the uncencored version in, ratings are there for a reason and there are a lot of adult gamers out there.
what is your oppinion? |
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Tremere
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Of course we should have R18+
The only person to blame is South Australian attorney general Michael Atkinson, who is the only one out of all the state AG's not approving of it. |
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kaworuchan42
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Now, if only consoles in the US would allow "AO" rated games..... I was so annoyed when I purchased Manhunt 2 for the Wii only to discover that all of the violence was blurred out in the screen. Even with the violence blurred out, I would still consider it to be an "adults only" game because the point of the game is to kill people in the most brutal ways imaginable. If "AO" ratings were allowed on consoles, that game could have been released the way it was intended for only the audience it was intended for.
I also believe that some of the games that get released uncut with "M" ratings in the US really do deserve an "AO", but that's another topic altogether.
I think I read somewhere that Fallout 3 (speaking of games that deserve "AO" ratings) had to be censored in Australia, as well. Ack. |
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EC
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| Come on Australia, pull your heads out of the kangaroo pouch and stop electing these phony-ass Christian conservatives. You reap what you sow, and thus you have a government that's afraid of pixels on a screen shown to a grown man. By the way, how are they gonna enforce this? Steam delivers games digitally, so are they gonna punish people who pay for it? |
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darkstone100
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Well, at least it isn't banned outright, all you have missing is some locational damage and dead corpses laying around.
(I'm sure someone out there will make a mod or something for the PC version that includes the original content. those modders are a crafty bunch)
and about Fallout 3, it was originally banned because the developers went stupid for awhile and named the in game drugs and stimulants cocaine and morphine instead of like the original fallout developers who named them Jet and mentats, Bethesda changed the names and it was released no problem. |
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Tremere
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| EC wrote: | | Come on Australia, pull your heads out of the kangaroo pouch and stop electing these phony-ass Christian conservatives. |
Fortunately the influence of the god lobby here declines every day. Dare I say the Muslim community will have an easier time getting their agenda across, due to their needs as a high profile immigrant population.
back on topic..
Michael Atkinson's argument is to do with games making an "impression" on children. On one hand, I agree with him. Being a teen not too long ago things online definitely swayed my view of the world without any judgment applied. On the other hand, making it contraband doesn't 'help' his argument. The number of <18 year olds that actually purchase video games on PC is very low. They know how to download it.
(Us Aussies are masters at digital importation) |
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Fidget
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| I'm so glad I don't live in Australia. They always ban EVERYTHING! It's ridiculous. |
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Enigmatic_Oddity
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[quote="Tremere"] | EC wrote: | | Michael Atkinson's argument is to do with games making an "impression" on children. On one hand, I agree with him. Being a teen not too long ago things online definitely swayed my view of the world without any judgment applied. On the other hand, making it contraband doesn't 'help' his argument. The number of <18 year olds that actually purchase video games on PC is very low. They know how to download it. |
It is irrelevant if games make an 'impression' on children, as any legislation for an R rating would do more to keep games from staying in the hands of the age appropriate. As it is now, many games are shoehorned into an MA rating that should be getting rated as R. |
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| kaworuchan42 wrote: |
I think I read somewhere that Fallout 3 (speaking of games that deserve "AO" ratings) had to be censored in Australia, as well. Ack. |
Actually they censored the use of real drugs names for in game medical supplies just so it'd fit the aus MA15 rating, and realised that as a worldwide version. Well, that's what I read at least...
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Now that srsly sucks. I mean, you're not even killing people in l4D2! You're killing people that are already dead. How does that rate banning? I haven't looked at screenshots yet (Don't want to spoil it) but I don't think the corpses are naked. Though that might add some interesting depth to the game... Might be cool if Zoey's top was shredded when a Hunter leaped on her. Then again, that'd probably just be another way to distract me and get myself eaten.
Luckily, Steam ftw. Digital content is always availible somehow. Just check out the chinese, they get through the national firewall all the time.
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tk5800
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Luckily, Steam ftw. Digital content is always availible somehow
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steam has infomation that tells it where in the world the data is going to, that way the data cannot go to certain IP adresses in australia,
in other words "steam knows where you live" |
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| Fidget wrote: | | I'm so glad I don't live in Australia. They always ban EVERYTHING! It's ridiculous. |
QFT |
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Vyn
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| tk5800 wrote: | | Quote: |
Luckily, Steam ftw. Digital content is always availible somehow
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steam has infomation that tells it where in the world the data is going to, that way the data cannot go to certain IP adresses in australia,
in other words "steam knows where you live" |
Easily fixed, use an out of country proxy server.
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Jkid
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| Or import the Xbox 360 version. Australian video game consoles are by law have to be multi-region. |
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