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iamnotaparakeet
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I know there are plenty of people more intelligent than I am, but here are the results of the intelligence component of the testing I received at Frasier when I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 2004:
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Intellectual abilities
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"Ben's performance on the WAIS-III is summarized below. It should be noticed that scaled scores of 8 to 12 and intellectual quotients of 90 to 109 define an average range of ability."
Vocabulary 13
Similarities 15
Arithmetic 16
Digit Span 8
Information 17
Comprehension 10
Letter-Number Sequencing 9
Picture Completion 11
Digit Symbol-Coding 7
Block Design 17
Matrix Reasoning 13
Picture Arrangement 8
Verbal IQ 119
Verbal Comprehension Index 129
Performance IQ 106
Perceptual Organization Index 121
Full Scale IQ 114
Working Memory Index 106
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raisedbyignorance
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Maybe it's just me but there seems to be a lot more nerds and geeks in modern society than many years ago.
I cant turn a corner without running into one 
I'm an aspie and this kind of thing terrifies me. go figure |
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protest_the_hero
He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
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The decline of popular culture is because of immigration and the invasion of Iraq was serving the interests of Israel. There I go with the crazy racist conspiracy theories 
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Master_Pedant
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | I know there are plenty of people more intelligent than I am, but here are the results of the intelligence component of the testing I received at Frasier when I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 2004:
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Intellectual abilities
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"Ben's performance on the WAIS-III is summarized below. It should be noticed that scaled scores of 8 to 12 and intellectual quotients of 90 to 109 define an average range of ability."
Vocabulary 13
Similarities 15
Arithmetic 16
Digit Span 8
Information 17
Comprehension 10
Letter-Number Sequencing 9
Picture Completion 11
Digit Symbol-Coding 7
Block Design 17
Matrix Reasoning 13
Picture Arrangement 8
Verbal IQ 119
Verbal Comprehension Index 129
Performance IQ 106
Perceptual Organization Index 121
Full Scale IQ 114
Working Memory Index 106 |
No processing speed index scores? |
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AliObsessed
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure that in recent years intelligence has declined. My personal theory is that this is because by being civilized many modern cultures have laws that protect people from their own stupidity and in doing so allows them to live to procreate. It's reverse Darwinism. |
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protest_the_hero
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| AliObsessed wrote: | | I'm pretty sure that in recent years intelligence has declined. My personal theory is that this is because by being civilized many modern cultures have laws that protect people from their own stupidity and in doing so allows them to live to procreate. It's reverse Darwinism. |
Exactly why we need eugenics.
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AliObsessed
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| I wanted to add to my earlier post and explain what led me to believe that intelligence has gone down. I am only a high school student and I base this opinion not solely on statistics but the absolute ignorance I see everyday in fellow students,teachers and many of the other adults I encounter. The averages that come in for the tests I take are horrible and as curriculum in my state is changed failure rates are soaring. That kind of thing made me start considering theories based in one of my favorite subjects,Charles Darwin |
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Master_Pedant
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| AliObsessed wrote: | | I'm pretty sure that in recent years intelligence has declined. My personal theory is that this is because by being civilized many modern cultures have laws that protect people from their own stupidity and in doing so allows them to live to procreate. It's reverse Darwinism. |
Yet you seem to forget that modern society is much more complicated than before. Furthermore - the intellectually borderline and certainly the retarded are not exactly pillars of superfecundity. |
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Master_Pedant
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| AliObsessed wrote: | | I wanted to add to my earlier post and explain what led me to believe that intelligence has gone down. I am only a high school student and I base this opinion not solely on statistics but the absolute ignorance I see everyday in fellow students,teachers and many of the other adults I encounter. The averages that come in for the tests I take are horrible and as curriculum in my state is changed failure rates are soaring. That kind of thing made me start considering theories based in one of my favorite subjects,Charles Darwin |
Wilful ignorance and indolence is no the same as low IQ - though early wilful ignorance and indolence can slow intellectual development. |
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AliObsessed
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| That is part of my theory as well is that since so many are willfully ignorant that people who have developed differently intellectually discourage themselves from having children. Also,I do understand the differences but sometimes I combine a persons level of ignorance with their intelligence because it appears to me that the two are sometimes related.I haven't fully developed my ideas though. |
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Master_Pedant
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| AliObsessed wrote: | | That is part of my theory as well is that since so many are willfully ignorant that people who have developed differently intellectually discourage themselves from having children. Also,I do understand the differences but sometimes I combine a persons level of ignorance with their intelligence because it appears to me that the two are sometimes related.I haven't fully developed my ideas though. |
Believe me - people too slow to comprehend a football match or work out social ques won't survive in society's lower middle class. |
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iamnotaparakeet
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iamnotaparakeet
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| AliObsessed wrote: | | I wanted to add to my earlier post and explain what led me to believe that intelligence has gone down. I am only a high school student and I base this opinion not solely on statistics but the absolute ignorance I see everyday in fellow students,teachers and many of the other adults I encounter. The averages that come in for the tests I take are horrible and as curriculum in my state is changed failure rates are soaring. That kind of thing made me start considering theories based in one of my favorite subjects,Charles Darwin |
Yes, government run education does lead to higher stupidity rates. Public education in general for that matter.
It is far more easier for me to learn from textbooks on my own than to wander through a massive complex, wondering who is going to throw insults or objects at me next, hearing all the gossip and the drama, or sitting in a classroom surrounded by other distracting people while trying to do school work.
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| protest_the_hero wrote: | | The decline of popular culture is because of immigration and the invasion of Iraq was serving the interests of Israel. There I go with the crazy racist conspiracy theories |
There you go, indeed. The world has been going to hell in a hand-basket long before Iraq and Israel.
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Ahaseurus2000
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Jared Diamond made an interesting statement when comparing the historical development of Guinean tribal societies to European societies. If I recall correctly, selection pressures in Guinean societies favoured intelligence, while in European societies selection pressures favoured resistance to disease because of high population.
Maybe a declining average intelligence is the price of a densely populated society?
Also, I regard declining intelligence as different from "Stupidity", which is a misapplication of intelligence. Some stupidity, especially in youth, is a part of learning and earning intelligence. Having recently reread Clive James discussing Arthur Schnizler, stupidity is probably more widespread than some people (including myself) want to think. |
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