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Why the world will never run out of energy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrknothead wrote:
Anything that will last farther than the duration of my lifetime, will last forever as far as I'm concerned... the end of the world will not be my problem, so why should I waste time contemplating it? Ditto for anything that happens after I die...


My "forever horizon" is the seventh generation from mine.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Native Americans considered how their acts would affect the seventh generation forward.

We borrow the world from our children.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Native Americans considered how their acts would affect the seventh generation forward.

We borrow the world from our children.


That is nonsense. We are under no compulsion to have children. And some of the plains indians drove buffalo herds over the cliff to get their meat. The injuns were too technologically primitive to be as wasteful as we are.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last question.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruveyn wrote:
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Native Americans considered how their acts would affect the seventh generation forward.

We borrow the world from our children.


That is nonsense. We are under no compulsion to have children. And some of the plains indians drove buffalo herds over the cliff to get their meat. The injuns were too technologically primitive to be as wasteful as we are.

ruveyn


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

0_equals_true wrote:
Energy is all around us, the problem is harnessing it. Easier said than done.


Harnessing and producing Energy can take Energy. Hydrogen may be facing a chicken & egg situation as we need Energy to combust hydrogen to create Energy!

I was reading a new theory on the origins of life, it mentioned the efficiency of ATP chemical reactions common in cellular life. It sounds like a free lunch and more. Maybe we could utilise that, at least for low demand situations? Imagine a Biobattery that recharges itself, and could be used to supply startup energy for something like small hydrogen powered car?

Also with the Sun and Solar Power, research the "Photovoltaic Ceiling".
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see the science behind driving a herd of buffalo over a cliff. Two guys flapping blankets would get stepped on.

I know the dig, the top layer were butchered, but thunder and lightning is the most likely cause, and oppertunity the butchering.

After 13,000 years of use America was a climax of perfection.

A few hundred years of superior Europeans left it a mess.

First the looting and destruction, now leaving a National Debt to the future.

Someone else's grandchildren can pay for it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahaseurus2000 wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Energy is all around us, the problem is harnessing it. Easier said than done.


Harnessing and producing Energy can take Energy. Hydrogen may be facing a chicken & egg situation as we need Energy to combust hydrogen to create Energy!

I was reading a new theory on the origins of life, it mentioned the efficiency of ATP chemical reactions common in cellular life. It sounds like a free lunch and more. Maybe we could utilise that, at least for low demand situations? Imagine a Biobattery that recharges itself, and could be used to supply startup energy for something like small hydrogen powered car?

Also with the Sun and Solar Power, research the "Photovoltaic Ceiling".


There ain't so such thing as a Free Lunch --- Robert A. Heinlein.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The world is full of Aspie energy too. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruveyn wrote:
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Native Americans considered how their acts would affect the seventh generation forward.

We borrow the world from our children.


That is nonsense. We are under no compulsion to have children. And some of the plains indians drove buffalo herds over the cliff to get their meat. The injuns were too technologically primitive to be as wasteful as we are.

ruveyn

Canada was founded on the fir trade. There was only one type of boat at the time that was capable of transporting all those men and their supplies thought he Canadian wildeerness, and was light enough to pick up and carry on their shoulders for "portage". Indian technology.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hail to the Indians.
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