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khelben1979
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Hardware specifications? |
It varies depending on which computer I'm using.
Performa 6400 - 180 MHz PowerPC 603e, 74 MB RAM, 2 GB hard drive
Performa 6200 - 75 MHz PowerPC 603, 64 MB RAM, 2 GB hard drive
LC 575 - 33 MHz 68LC040, 8 MB RAM, 320 MB hard drive
The list goes on. OS 7.5 is a wicked fast OS on the right hardware. |
Linux usually wants more RAM than that if you're going to use it in graphical mode. I see now why you don't want to install Linux on it.
I have run Linux on an Amiga4000 with only 64MB of RAM and this was possible, however, the lag of the graphics was a lot worse than what was achieved with AmigaOS and in comparison to what you're running now, this would most likely by experienced in the same way regarding the speed.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Such old machines might run BSD or an extremely stripped-down Linux, but why bother?
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gramirez
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | | but why bother? |
Exactly.
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one1ai
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| Aseld wrote: | | twoshots wrote: | | I currently use Vista, but my heart will forever be in DOS, the only operating system that can really be called beautiful. |
Sacrilege!
My operating system of choice is gNewSense, for ethical as well as technical reasons. |
At least we are 2.
gNewSense is based on Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 . It doesn't have firefox because firefox recommends non-free software add-ons, so they forked it and made "icecat", which is based on the latest versions of firefox, so we get everything firefox already has without the recommendations for non-libre software.
I dual boot it with Ubuntu 8.04, which I use only to play 3D games, because gNewSense rejects non-free 3D drivers for my graphics card because my 3D card manufacturer doesn't want to support free libre and open source software(floss). Guess I have to get one from a company that supports floss.
Scientifically linux is a kernel, and popularly referred to as an Operating System. This is not wrong. This is reality.
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On my desktop and laptop, I have Windows 7 Ultimate and Ubuntu Karmic. I also revived my mom's old laptop with Ubuntu Karmic and will put it on ebay after I replace the battery and hard drive.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| one1ai wrote: | | Aseld wrote: | | twoshots wrote: | | I currently use Vista, but my heart will forever be in DOS, the only operating system that can really be called beautiful. |
Sacrilege!
My operating system of choice is gNewSense, for ethical as well as technical reasons. |
At least we are 2.
gNewSense is based on Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 . It doesn't have firefox because firefox recommends non-free software add-ons, so they forked it and made "icecat", which is based on the latest versions of firefox, so we get everything firefox already has without the recommendations for non-libre software.
I dual boot it with Ubuntu 8.04, which I use only to play 3D games, because gNewSense rejects non-free 3D drivers for my graphics card because my 3D card manufacturer doesn't want to support free libre and open source software(floss). Guess I have to get one from a company that supports floss.
Scientifically linux is a kernel, and popularly referred to as an Operating System. This is not wrong. This is reality. |
I'll never understand gNewSense. You're taking a proper subset of Ubuntu's functionality with a lagging release, rather than just installing Ubuntu and avoiding whatever proprietary stuff you don't want. You could quite easily run Debian with a kernel-libre and only activate the Main repository (leaving contib and nonfree commented out) to have a completely free system that covers much more functionality than gNewSense ever will.
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Mac OS X Tiger, none of the preferences are hidden under "advanced" tabs and it's not quite that bloated as Leopard is. I do like Vista because it's design isn't the normal office blaness that previous Micrsoft's OS's were.
but if I had a choice that would give me full compatibility with today, it would hands down be OS 9, you dump apps to a ram disk and almost never need to use your hard drive. 
I've only upgraded OS's because everyone around me has done so and I need to stay in the game with formats as well as speed.
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Ubuntu 10.04, but only for the next 6 months. Then my favourite will be 10.10.. and so on.
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one1ai
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: |
I'll never understand gNewSense. You're taking a proper subset of Ubuntu's functionality with a lagging release, rather than just installing Ubuntu and avoiding whatever proprietary stuff you don't want. You could quite easily run Debian with a kernel-libre and only activate the Main repository (leaving contib and nonfree commented out) to have a completely free system that covers much more functionality than gNewSense ever will. |
New versions of gNewSense will be based on Debian. gNewSense is one of a few fully free distributions whose goal is to have and recommend only free libre software.
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| one1ai wrote: | | Orwell wrote: |
I'll never understand gNewSense. You're taking a proper subset of Ubuntu's functionality with a lagging release, rather than just installing Ubuntu and avoiding whatever proprietary stuff you don't want. You could quite easily run Debian with a kernel-libre and only activate the Main repository (leaving contib and nonfree commented out) to have a completely free system that covers much more functionality than gNewSense ever will. |
New versions of gNewSense will be based on Debian. gNewSense is one of a few fully free distributions whose goal is to have and recommend only free libre software. |
Yeah, I dont understand how that is any better than the strict rules of Debian.
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one1ai
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Fuzzy: Depends on what your personal idea of "better" is, for this case.
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| one1ai wrote: | | Fuzzy: Depends on what your personal idea of "better" is, for this case. |
Maybe my question begged this vague sort of answer.
I'll try a little better.
What does gnewsense offer over Debian?
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| Fuzzy wrote: | | one1ai wrote: | | Fuzzy: Depends on what your personal idea of "better" is, for this case. |
Maybe my question begged this vague sort of answer.
I'll try a little better.
What does gnewsense offer over Debian? |
It's Stallman-approved.
From what I can tell, the FSF (ie Stallman) objection to Debian is that it is possible and relatively easy to add repositories containing non-free software. This stuff is community-maintained (not an official part of Debian) but given that all of Debian is community-maintained, the contrib and non-free repos are at least semi-official, and there are a lot of other third-party repos out there offering proprietary stuff. (Of course, since gNewSense uses APT, it would be quite simple to add, for example, Opera's .deb repo and install proprietary software)
GNewSense, as far as I've been able to determine, adds nothing over Ubuntu or Debian in the sense of new features or improved functionality. All it does is restrict user options to only an extremely strict free software definition. All well and good if you're a free-software fanatic, don't mind your software lagging a bit behind current development, and don't need any of the functionality that gNewSense removes, but for most people it's just not practical. I know that for myself, gNewSense is impossible- my wireless card absolutely requires a proprietary driver as an open-source one does not yet exist.
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one1ai
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| Orwell wrote: | | All well and good if you're a free-software fanatic |
That attitude doesn't help in any conversation. Being a free-software activist means you'll have to make sacrifices. I guess you've made sacrifices. If you are happy with the sacrifices you've made you can stop making more.
[quote=none]I'll never understand gNewSense. gNewSense is a proper subset of Ubuntu 8.04 functionality on x86 architectures and Debian Lenny functionality on the mipsel architectures, rather than just installing Ubuntu/Debian and avoiding whatever proprietary stuff I don't want.[/quote]
I installed gNewSense partly also because using Ubuntu made me use Ubuntu forums where lots of non-free stuff are mentioned all the time. I switched to change community. I don't mind if they talk less, but I want to find people that care about software to be free/libre. Even free culture. I don't like elitist talk, like "we can do this" "we can do that".
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| one1ai wrote: |
I installed gNewSense partly also because using Ubuntu made me use Ubuntu forums where lots of non-free stuff are mentioned all the time. I switched to change community. I don't mind if they talk less, but I want to find people that care about software to be free/libre. Even free culture. I don't like elitist talk, like "we can do this" "we can do that". |
Thanks. That is the sort of details I was looking for. I can see how that is different from Debian.
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