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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently running Ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix.

Cannot get adobe flash player to work. Tried numerous methods, including the terminal, synaptic, the automatic installer. So no youtube. Or many other websites.

Tried to get my external DVD drive to play. Refuses. Got the codecs but comes up with an error anyway, one without any obvious solutions to.

Sometimes open office simply will not open.

Sometimes it simply will not download anything, continually claiming there is not enough disk space, to a usb stick which had 5gb free.

I cannot use this any more. I am forced to only because my netbook has internally failed and so I run Ubuntu off a usb stick. I can no longer continue with this so have headed to asus support page to get a replacement. And guess what, that website needs flash player Rolling Eyes wall Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audiophile wrote:


Show me a presentation software for Linux that has a presenter view like MS PowerPoint/ Apple Keynote does.


Sorry I have no idea what those do or how they work. I am not qualified to pontificate on them.

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Or, a simple way to get dual screens working.


Does it need to be more simple than this?(I dont actually have two monitors hooked up any more. If you insist I can provide.


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Who could forgot the support for so many mainstream media formats?

wav, mp3, mpeg, avi, fli/flv, mov, flac, ogg, wmv, wma, aac, alac, cda.. am I missing any? I think I am, but rest assured, they play as well. Most of them work out of the box, and if not...

Installing these codecs is simple, and I dont need some weird ass proprietary player. Does this look hard? I counted four mouse clicks to install ALL the restricted stuff. Not four clicks each, either.

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I know alot of people who use Apple Lossless, don't tell me that it's a small percentage.

What is Apple lossless?

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And plus, linux uses obscure formats itself because normal formats cost money. The Linux Fondation does make money by donations so they could afford using the correct formats.

What do you consider an obscure format? Ogg, aac? Flac? Its true that linux uses the obscure formats. But then, its true that linux uses all of the formats.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh, should I use Apple instead of Linux if Flash can't be used?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gamefreak wrote:
lau wrote:
Windows is completely useless. It is an abysmal operating system, but this doesn't make it useful.

I used XP until the point that I finally told myself "why am I using this useless operating system?". It's completely and utterly useless. It pretty much defines the word useless. Windows is about as useful as a watch with no battery in it.

If I wanted to run a slow and unstable OS (which would run mediocre software), I'd go with Windows. But a slow and unstable OS + mediocre software = cash for MS. Linux may cost no money (none of it), be more resource-friendly and be comfortably user-friendly, and it runs software that is 100x better than the mediocre stuff that's available for Windows. Sure, there's Wine, with hardly any compatibility issues, but it's better to stick with the Linux native stuff.

Time will tell when these Windows-lovers will decide to get the most potential out of their systems and use Linux instead. Most of the software that is developed for Windows is laughable, that's how bad it is. I can't believe that anybody would choose to use such poor software just so they can use an OS that is huge amount slower than Linux.

Words of advice: Quit being conned and use Linux because better software will never be developed for Windows. You're only making yourselves ill by using your mediocre software and choosing to get the least out of your system.

Remember my formula: A slow and unstable OS + mediocre software = cash for MS

That formula might come in handy for some of you people.



Yes the operating system is more resource demanding. However is very compatible with any kind of hardware. 75% of the time your running off of generic hardware drivers in linux. Which by the way won't get full potential out of your computer. The only company that even makes drivers for Linux is Intel.

Secondly it has taken one of my friends hours to find a valuable flash player and pdf plug-in for linux.

Maybe Win9X was unstable but Windows XP is far from unstable. I've never seen the BSOD in any XP computers i have worked on in my life. Also if a program does make your computer slow as molasses you can close out of it.[You just mad that it takes 3-5 Minutes to close out of a unstable program.] You don't even have to reboot your computer to close out of a bad program.

Also for all you Beryl fans out there XP has a customizable GUI Too. What do you think the new XP UI was all about. To make it easy for you and developers to visual tweak your desktop the way you want it.

Oh and about the resource demands. XP will run fine on your old, rusty 300Mhz Celeron Box w/ 192MB PC100 Memory and 6.4GB HD. You just have to know how to take care of your computer. I don't want to here any complaints from morons clicking on any random e-mail attachment possible. Also if you use ccleaner and defrag once a week you won't have a problem even with a computer that old. Did i forget an actual antivirus program.


Check your facts please:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.36.html
wide link
wide link

Plenty of companies make Linux drivers...

ruennsheng wrote:
Sigh, should I use Apple instead of Linux if Flash can't be used?

Flash works fine on Linux, and before you go XKCD on us, yes the option to use full screen flash has been there for some time in Linux.

All you have to do is install the flash plugin for your browser, which does require a little work, but when done, it's fine, even on x64.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruennsheng wrote:
Sigh, should I use Apple instead of Linux if Flash can't be used?


flash works fine in linux.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: I'm non-technical and I use linux the kernel Reply with quote

finrod wrote:

Linux is a system for people who know about computers. Windows is a system for people who know jacksquat and so need to tell the computer how to tell them everything.


That's a nice stereotype you got there. I'm newbie and I use gNewSense. I simply follow instructions that helpful people post to help me(and others). Am I the only non-technical[0] person using an Operating System with linux the kernel?

[0] = I've not been programming at a regular pace at any time, yet. I mostly prefer graphical user interfaces whenever possible. I like computers, but I understand them rarely.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be willing to use Linux/UNIX systems, if I never had to use terminal commands ever again.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symbian OS.
Has players for nearly everything
Has office programs, bittorrent, you name it.

Doesn't get viruses or malware like windows
Doesn't have a snooty following like apple, nor does it cost too much.
Simple operating system without an elitist following like linux, with support for telnetting and such.

I can play snes games and stuff if I'm bothered.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuzzy wrote:

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I know alot of people who use Apple Lossless, don't tell me that it's a small percentage.

What is Apple lossless?


My impression is that flac is by far the most used lossless compression format. I think even Monkey's Audio has a higher market share than Apple lossless. Seriously, why bother unless you're locked in to Apple.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was locked in to Apple once - and then they cancelled support for the Apple III
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuzzy wrote:
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I know alot of people who use Apple Lossless, don't tell me that it's a small percentage.

What is Apple lossless?

An uncompressed audio codec. Basically a proprietary FLAC, so good luck getting it to play in anything other than iTunes and an iPod. Not too many people use it- I would suspect that FLAC is the dominant lossless codec.

I do have some of my music encoded in Apple Lossless, but it doesn't offer much noticeable advantage over other formats.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back I never realized how totally wrong I was about Windows. Particularly after setting up a 233MHz Vector Linux system with LXDE and using a 1.0GHz PIII with Ubuntu 9.10 as my main station. All of which are in most peoples eyes beige garbage computers but yet run better than their dual-cores.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in correct statent, great for embedded controllers
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