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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

League_Girl wrote:
cassiusclay wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
I find it wonderful that, the moment we lose our moderation privileges, how swiftly the membership shows their gratitude to our service. Or at least, I hope, a minority.

When we moderate, we do it for the good of the forum as a whole. I take a utilitarian approach to moderation. That means the strongest amount of good to the most amount of people. If other people are disruptive, and continue to do so, well, we will ban them. This, first and foremost, is a support site for people with AS, not a shooting range or a chance to show off that you or your opinion is foremost amongst all others.

And this is how you treat us in return? You disgust me. Pathetic, petty little minds who cannot get over slights either imagined or exaggerated as justification for doing what you want, regardless of how others feel. You are poor examples of the human race as a whole, regardless of whether or not you have Asperger's, autism, or are an NT.


Confused Shocked

Alex, at last is just doing the right thing. You're being way over the top with your insults. If a mod has done the crime in question, then obviously they aren't acting for the good of the forum. I think members have been speaking up now, because they were too scared to. You're bullies, not supportive.

I heard you've banned members for saying they didn't like your travel blog. That to me is pathetic.



No QM we are just speaking our minds now telling the truth how we have been treated unfairly. In the past we have kept quiet because we were scared to speak up due to the fear of the ban. With you guys not having the power, we have our chance to speak out. Someone messed with the wrong person so that person went to Alex showing him the unfair final warning she got and she was back posting here again and then she was unable to login again. She posted under her husband's account, same issue occurred. Then yesterday, all her accounts were deleted; Spokane_Girl, likedcalico and sleepingwolf, her husband's account. Who was that person? Me. I did not intend for this rally to happen but it did after I had been bitching about my issues at other places. Then parts has decided to start a thread asking about missing accounts. I decided to speak up expecting to get banned and lose my account. This has nothing to do with the post Emor posted at the Psych Forums.

Thank me everyone for this. I think I have finally gotten Alex to be aware of the issues here. Very Happy
I don't know what will happen after this.


Well the fact that all 4 of the accounts relating to you, shows it wasn't just a "glitch". Anyone who believes that is hugely naive. Someone is guilty.

Well actually it wasn't just you, but yes, you played a big part.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really seem to have a problem with anything here but like.... I'm just curious does the database messes up when a moderator or admin deletes a member?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superboyian wrote:
I don't really seem to have a problem with anything here but like.... I'm just curious does the database messes up when a moderator or admin deletes a member?


If you try to call a value that doesn't exist, theoretically it can cause a fault...which, depending on the software, can be handled graciously - IE: without a hitch, or...it can slow the software whilst it goes through a system of "what do?", or....worst case, the whole thing falls over.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cassiusclay wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
cassiusclay wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
I find it wonderful that, the moment we lose our moderation privileges, how swiftly the membership shows their gratitude to our service. Or at least, I hope, a minority.

When we moderate, we do it for the good of the forum as a whole. I take a utilitarian approach to moderation. That means the strongest amount of good to the most amount of people. If other people are disruptive, and continue to do so, well, we will ban them. This, first and foremost, is a support site for people with AS, not a shooting range or a chance to show off that you or your opinion is foremost amongst all others.

And this is how you treat us in return? You disgust me. Pathetic, petty little minds who cannot get over slights either imagined or exaggerated as justification for doing what you want, regardless of how others feel. You are poor examples of the human race as a whole, regardless of whether or not you have Asperger's, autism, or are an NT.


Confused Shocked

Alex, at last is just doing the right thing. You're being way over the top with your insults. If a mod has done the crime in question, then obviously they aren't acting for the good of the forum. I think members have been speaking up now, because they were too scared to. You're bullies, not supportive.

I heard you've banned members for saying they didn't like your travel blog. That to me is pathetic.



No QM we are just speaking our minds now telling the truth how we have been treated unfairly. In the past we have kept quiet because we were scared to speak up due to the fear of the ban. With you guys not having the power, we have our chance to speak out. Someone messed with the wrong person so that person went to Alex showing him the unfair final warning she got and she was back posting here again and then she was unable to login again. She posted under her husband's account, same issue occurred. Then yesterday, all her accounts were deleted; Spokane_Girl, likedcalico and sleepingwolf, her husband's account. Who was that person? Me. I did not intend for this rally to happen but it did after I had been bitching about my issues at other places. Then parts has decided to start a thread asking about missing accounts. I decided to speak up expecting to get banned and lose my account. This has nothing to do with the post Emor posted at the Psych Forums.

Thank me everyone for this. I think I have finally gotten Alex to be aware of the issues here. Very Happy
I don't know what will happen after this.


Well the fact that all 4 of the accounts relating to you, shows it wasn't just a "glitch". Anyone who believes that is hugely naive. Someone is guilty.

Well actually it wasn't just you, but yes, you played a big part.



It was two actually. My husband's account doesn't count because it was his, not mine. Now this is my third one.

PS I am afraid to be wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadracer wrote:
Yes, I just noticed this, there are many threads and many members that have just vanished, like they have never been here Shocked . This is a MAJOR problem and needs fixed ASAP. I imagine the members this affects, they cant post here also. In this forum there was a thread by SpokaneGirl that I replyed to yesterday, she was saying that she was having issues getting on the site. The thread has vanished, all her posts have vanished, and PM with her have vanished, it is like she was never even here Shocked


It seems all my PM's with her are gone as well....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked as a copyeditor and proofreader at various times in my life. The curse of the text-focused Aspie is to notice every little incongruity, logical error, and peculiarity in what I read. I should be so lucky as to translate the ability to spot glitches in text into the ability to spot glitches in face-to-face interactions. Still no luck with that after more than 50 years. Anyway, this post by Alex:

alex wrote:
I am not aware of entire threads disappearing.

Also, Spokane_Girl was never banned.

unfortunately, I am still trying to figure out what happened. The worst part is that backups are 2 weeks stale due to an unrelated glitch on the hosting side that has been fixed only today. Due to the severity of this issue I have had to remove moderator privileges for most of the moderators until we figure out what happened.

Regardless, restoring the lost member / post data will take hours if not days of work and I'm seriously angry especially since this deletion is causing issues on Wrong Planet's performance and may result in slowness and weird quirkiness when people try to access missing data. If this was caused by a moderator, the intent was clearly malicious, and that person will never be a moderator on my forum (or any other one for that matter).


Okay, see that bolded part?

Quote:
If this was caused by a moderator, the intent was clearly malicious, and that person will never be a moderator on my forum (or any other one for that matter).


Now picture that string of text that I've marked in red being reinserted into the sentence, except that the insertion point is placed ONE WORD TO THE RIGHT.

Quote:
If this was caused by a moderator, and the intent was clearly malicious, {then} that person will never be a moderator on my forum (or any other one for that matter).


Words are slippery things, never more so than on the Net where you can't see the expression on the other guy's face. (Not that that's ever been a big help for someone like me, but never mind.) I would hate to think that a previously-harmonious working relationship between Alex and his moderating team could be blown to bits by what might be nothing more than a transcription error.

Comments and dissenting opinions welcome.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how are you interrupting it?


He isn't 100% sure a mod did this and if the mod did to this, this was intentional. That mod will never mod his forum again and he will make sure other people know about that person so they won't have that person be a mod for what happened here. That's how I interpreted it anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Emor.
I don't have a lot to contribute due to the fact I quit using this site a while back due to its views on NTs, and how I thought it was also too addictive.
But I'd just like to say that the post I made on PsychForums, and the project, wasn't a malicious one. I was planning on going onto other forums for people with AS, recruiting secretly around 500 members who were ex WP users and had been treated badly or had left due to problems with the moderation and then on one date flooding the site with complains regarding the moderation, so the moderators wouldn't be able to censor them out.
TBH, I think it's ridiculous I've been banned for being critical on another site of the moderation techniques implicitly.
If sinsboldsly(who clearly was the one who banned me) thought my project was suspicious(even though I didn't give any details publicly) then she should have taken it upon her self(she has a responsibility as a moderator on WP to investigate into such things, for the better of WP) to contact me, rather than simply banning me. I also couldn't view the boards, and had to register a new account with a proxy. At first I thought I was IP banned, but once I'd logged in under my new account I seem to be having no problem. Which is confusing. I'd say cookies, but I've been on WP in private browsing mode and still got the same problem...
But yeah, obviously, I no longer need to do the whole project because it's happening now anyway.
It's a shame really because it would have been rather spectacular and I would have had something to be busy with for a couple of weeks... But in terms of the actual cause, the two current threads seem to be doing a fine job Smile.
But I seriously think you should take some therapy or something sinsboldly. This isn't an insult, you just clearly have control issues. You're also incredibly impulsive
Also, for the WP moderators who feel betrayed, there's at LEAST a thousand other people who would want to be in your position(in terms of privileges), so don't act like it's some sort of burden. You should be grateful for being selected, not be bashing Alex.
Up to now certain moderators have being doing, frankly, a crap job, and just because you have a moderator tag doesn't mean you have some sort of superior judgement. Being a moderator on WP isn't some amazing thing. Most people I know personally on here could do a better job than the specific few who have been abusing their powers.
But yeah. That's my opinion on the subject.
It's more to further verify the claims against sinsbodly specifically, because most of what I've said other members have already stated several times.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I'm saying is that Alex's comment could be interpreted in several very different ways, depending on where the logical operators are placed in the sentence. It's up to him to clarify, really.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, of the moderators I've dealt with in their role as moderator, I've found Sinsboldly the easiest to deal with.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mysty wrote:
Personally, of the moderators I've dealt with in their role as moderator, I've found Sinsboldly the easiest to deal with.



Lucky you Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

League_Girl wrote:
Mysty wrote:
Personally, of the moderators I've dealt with in their role as moderator, I've found Sinsboldly the easiest to deal with.



Lucky you Rolling Eyes


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lactrodactus wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Mysty wrote:
Personally, of the moderators I've dealt with in their role as moderator, I've found Sinsboldly the easiest to deal with.



Lucky you Rolling Eyes


Agreed.
I thought she was the easiest too, at least the friendliest, taking a personal interest in our lives. But that was just one of her personalities.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lau surely had a hand in banning me, for no reason. He had taken a dislike to me simply because I'd had an opposing opinion to his in a thread about a water filtration system. Either him and/or Sinsboldly banned me frivolously and without cause. And Mak was on my heels during that time too with his intimidation tactics and now I find he's been made a mod and while he is still operating in the same manner. If I get banned for saying this, so be it. I was devastated because this site was all I had and I didn't deserve to be banned.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meadow, you're not alone. I was rushing to post something on WP after months offline and then I found I was banned. I became suicidal within a few seconds. I was in a public place and started sobbing and saying "I didn't do anything!" I mean, I must have done something, but nothing big and I never made the same mistake twice except for once, but this was way after that... so it's a belated banning?
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