happymusic ninja


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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| hhhmmm.. yes, very complicated. What a strange habit - could this be an actual case of kleptomania? She doesn't have any children that could give you some insight as to why she wants to see you? Hm. I see why you are hesitant - other than just the cost of the trip. |
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Nan Phoenix


Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 4358
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| if you go, don't take anything you can't stand to have stolen. |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie


Joined: Nov 22, 2006 Age: 62 Posts: 15238
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MsTriste wrote: | Dutch Uncle discussion
So now she wants me to come visit. Of course she may have matured over the years, and I'm sure has moved past her thieving years.
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you sure? Yes, she certainly may have matured over the years but people can carry grudges about people that called them a theif to other family members (especially when they were caught flat footed). I would ask questions until they got annoyed with me asking questions, frankly. If she has 'come to Jebus' or some other life changing experience to relate it would make me even more suspicious. But that is just me, of course.
Merle _________________ “Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.” – Albert Camus |
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happymusic ninja


Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Posts: 3150 Location: still in ninja land
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Nan wrote: |
if you go, don't take anything you can't stand to have stolen.
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or.....take things you'd like to part with.... It's like regifting but much more clever...
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...(especially when they were caught flat footed).
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What does caught flat footed mean? Is it like red handed? I see someone with paint-dipped red cartoon hands and very flat, bare feet... |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie


Joined: Nov 22, 2006 Age: 62 Posts: 15238
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| happymusic wrote: | | Nan wrote: |
if you go, don't take anything you can't stand to have stolen.
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or.....take things you'd like to part with.... It's like regifting but much more clever...
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...(especially when they were caught flat footed).
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What does caught flat footed mean? Is it like red handed? I see someone with paint-dipped red cartoon hands and very flat, bare feet... |
'flagrans' conspicuously and outrageously bad or reprehensible; delictum'< L dēlictum a fault, n. use of neut. of dēlictus (ptp. of dēlinquere to do wrong; see delinquency), equiv. to dēlic- fail + -tus ptp. suffix
| Quote: | Red-handed doesn't have a mythical origin however - it is a straightforward allusion to having blood on one's hands after the execution of a murder or a poaching session. The term originates, not from Northern Ireland, but from a country not so far from there, socially and geographically, i.e. Scotland. An earlier form of 'red-handed', simply 'red hand', dates back to a usage in the Scottish Acts of Parliament of James I, 1432.
Red-hand appears in print many times in Scottish legal proceedings from the 15th century onward. For example, this piece from Sir George Mackenzie's A discourse upon the laws and customs of Scotland in matters criminal, 1674:
"If he be not taken red-hand the sheriff cannot proceed against him." |
| Quote: | | caught flat-footed idiom Caught unprepared, taken by surprise, as in The reporter's question caught the President flat-footed. This usage comes from one or another sport in which a player should be on his or her toes, ready to act. [c. 1900] |
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MsTriste On the Spectrum


Joined: Dec 08, 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 3552 Location: Not here
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Last night a witty neighbor was visiting for a few minutes, and he referred to something as being "honky-dory". I laughed and told him it was "hunky", not honky. So we speculated about the origins of the term, coincidentally enough with your post above (thank you - I love word derivations).
Hunky comes from the Dutch (more coincidence) for 'home', and dory may refer either to a tender, which is a small boat used to shuttle things etc. for a ship (and seeing as how the Dutch were a major sea-faring nation for so long and also because an unbelievable number of phrases and idioms are sailing-related, I think that's what it's referring to - or from the French for gold.
So it either came from the Dutch 'home ship tender' or Dutch/French 'home gold'.
And I always thought 'in flagrante delicto' meant 'in flagrant deliciousness'.
Merle, I can't read your avatar. What is it? |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie


Joined: Nov 22, 2006 Age: 62 Posts: 15238
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 'in flagrant deliciousness'. |
I love it!
| Quote: | Honky comes from bohunk and hunky, derogatory terms for Bohemian, Hungarian, and Polish immigrants that came into use around the turn of the century. According to Robert Hendrickson, author of the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins, black workers in Chicago meat-packing plants picked up the term from white workers and began applying it indiscriminately to all Caucasians. Probably thought they all looked alike.
ANOTHER SOURCE FOR HONKY
Dear Cecil:
Your source for the origin of honky only gave you half the story. Another probable etymon for honky, cited by David Dalby in his "African Element in American English" (to be found in my Rappin' and Stylin' Out: Communication in Urban Black America) is the Wolof term honq, "red, pink," a term frequently used in to describe white men in African languages. --Tom Kochman, professor of communication, University of Illinois at Chicago |
| Quote: | Another story however (attributed by the Morrises to Charles Earle Funk) traces the origin back to the Dutch settlement of New Amsterdam: taking the word hunk as derived from the Dutch word honk for goal. When you reached the goal, everything was hunky-dory. How the dory got into the expression was not clear.
We do know that Christy's Minstrels of the mid-nineteenth century popularized a bit of corn called "Josiphus Orange Blossom" that contained the lyric "red hot hunky-dory contraband." The song was a hit and hunky-dory came into the language. |
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MsTriste On the Spectrum


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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: |
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So we'll never really know. Oh well, thanks for the additional info.
But that still leaves the mystery of your current avatar. |
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happymusic ninja


Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Posts: 3150 Location: still in ninja land
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Merle,
Thank you so much for your explanation - I love word derivations, too and especially appreciate citing references. On the thread about what you've learned new today, i should just point them to your post. Thanks!! |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie


Joined: Nov 22, 2006 Age: 62 Posts: 15238
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| MsTriste wrote: | So we'll never really know. Oh well, thanks for the additional info.
But that still leaves the mystery of your current avatar. |
I will try to remember the web site where I took the test. |
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lau Really nice person to know. :)


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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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rdos.net _________________ "Striking up conversations with strangers is an autistic person's version of extreme sports." Kamran Nazeer |
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sinsboldly Free Range Aspie


Joined: Nov 22, 2006 Age: 62 Posts: 15238
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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thank you, Lau.
Merle |
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SleepyDragon I am unable to comply.


Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 3600 Location: One fœtid lair or another.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Similar to "caught flatfooted," there's an expression in Australia (probably elsewhere as well) "caught on the back foot." This makes most sense when considered from a cricket batsman's perspective, where having your centre of gravity shifted to your forward-most foot allows you more options for responsive action than having your weight over your back foot. |
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SleepyDragon I am unable to comply.


Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 3600 Location: One fœtid lair or another.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Also, MsTriste, there is a thread about rdos's aspie quiz in the Members Only discussion --> HERE. Many of us have taken the test, some more than once, because different versions of it get released from time to time. |
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MsTriste On the Spectrum


Joined: Dec 08, 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 3552 Location: Not here
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Did you know that if your boyfriend smashes your computer into smithereens because he got caught hanging out with another woman, that you can connect your keyboard into the television? The graphics are amazing! But no more computer or boyfriend. See you all some other time. |
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