Tequila
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| Quote: | | Yeah...I know....seeing as how I LIVE THERE. Or are you just trying to say that British women are like American women? In which case, I'll stay away. |
What I'm trying to say is that women are women. People are people, and each have their individual personalities and quirks. Some women are very submissive, others are very dominant. Others are people-pleasers, others won't take any nonsense from anyone. Some are extremely social, others are like hermits. Others like danger, while further others are very risk averse. Some are dirty and horrid looking, others are clean and very well-groomed. Women are fat and thin (and everywhere in between), young and old, are a range of races, religions (of all kinds and none, some virulently so) and have all kinds of different interests in life. Some are very, very selfish.
You could end up with a woman who horribly victimises you, cheats on you, cleans out your bank account, publicly humiliates you, regularly beats you to a pulp (or, worse, gets other members of her gang that she's involved with to do it), and bullies you into horribly debasing yourself. Do you want that? Because I wouldn't.
You need to stop thinking "I need a woman". That's likely to lead to rejection and if not, abusive characters homing in on you and robbing you and harming you. You need to think "what is the right woman for me?" and tune a lot of the more unsuitable women out.
| Quote: | | I don't want a woman to act as a pet, but if women from developing countries would treat me better, I'm definitely up for that. |
Most often they're looking to use you either as a springboard until a 'better', wealthier husband comes along or they are using you in order to feed their extended families. With the language barrier, this is often a doomed liaison. What's more, the women doing this know this and are keeping you sweet so they can look after themselves first and foremost. Think of that as a business arrangement.
You want someonr to love you for you, and that can't happen while you're in such a self-loathing state of mind. Think positive. Think how much Quality you have. More than a lot of other guys, trust me. |
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MountZion
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Every time I think pickup artists can't stoop any lower. |
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| Erisad wrote: | | MountZion wrote: | | Erisad wrote: | | Fatal-Noogie wrote: | ... they exceed my expectations. While I, with wry irony, applaud their endless malice, deception, and cruelty,
I also find myself tempted to snatch their liquor from their hand and poor it down their pants, which are already proverbially on fire.
So at this recent party, I overheard 2 guys reviewing the techniques and methodology:
Guy 1: "What you do to get a particular woman, is you openly show an interest in each of her friends, but keep putting her down. Eventually she'll get jealous and come to you."
Guy 2: "So what if I say '____ ____ __ ____ __ ___ ___' ?" (I can't remember the line.)
Guy 1: "No. That will makes her feel good about herself. You can't do that."
So now I know that even just being nice to women is ... prohibited, as a sure way to failure. 
Good f***ing job, pickup artists. You make filthy stayers look like saints by comparison. |
f***ing PUAs. They are scum and deserve to die alone. :/ |
I don't think all of them are. I think some of the things that PUAs teach aren't exclusively PUA material, but something that they've studied as being more attractive to a particular portion of women on this planet, through behaviour of men who are generally more attractive to women than most guys. That's my own personal observation really.
I think most guys would learn PUA material because they want to be able to better interact with women (and even people in general) rather than be socially inept or awkward and end up not living a life deemed satisfactory to them. I understand this as although I am adept at socializing, I do fall short in the dating area.
I have no wish to be a PUA, but there are subtle nuances in socializing that I wish to learn lol |
Frankly, I see it as a guy lying about who he is or putting the woman down in order to manipulate her for sex. If you aren't successful with a particular group of women, work on yourself and move on. No need to put on a facade to score with some girl in the sack. If you're such a great guy, you shouldn't need to resort to dishonorable tactics in order to find someone. Sometimes all one needs is time and to be at the right place at the right time. Go out, find a hobby, practice socializing with friends and eventually things should look up for these guys. Bitching about women on the internet isn't going to help. |
I didn't say anything about "dishonorable" tactics, and I certainly don't subscribe to or condone dishonesty or disrespect when dealing with anyone. I think you misunderstood what I posted. Otherwise, I agree with you, and there are a lot of guys who do this, whether they are PUA or not.
OP, I believe the term for what those guys were talking about is "negging", which I personally think is manipulative, and only works on someone with low self-esteem, so it's kind of predatory in that respect (which kind of proves Erisad's point)
I err on the side of the proverbial fence, in that I can see what Erisad is saying, yet I also have gleamed positives out of what I learned from reading some of the PUA stuff I have read. In my personal opinion, you have to be able to filter out the bad stuff when it comes to handling information, as information is neither good nor bad, it just is. However you interpret or apply that information is up to you.
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Erisad
More like Erihappy, amirite?
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cdfox7
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Every time I think pickup artists can't stoop any lower. |
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| MountZion wrote: | | OP, I believe the term for what those guys were talking about is "negging", which I personally think is manipulative, and only works on someone with low self-esteem, so it's kind of predatory in that respect (which kind of proves Erisad's point) |
Negging is a very crud form of hypnotic fractionation. Hypnotic fractionation is used in a non manipluative manner in both neuro-linguistic programming and Ericksonian hypnotherapy. |
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MountZion
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Every time I think pickup artists can't stoop any lower. |
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| cdfox7 wrote: | | MountZion wrote: | | OP, I believe the term for what those guys were talking about is "negging", which I personally think is manipulative, and only works on someone with low self-esteem, so it's kind of predatory in that respect (which kind of proves Erisad's point) |
Negging is a very crud form of hypnotic fractionation. Hypnotic fractionation is used in a non manipluative manner in both neuro-linguistic programming and Ericksonian hypnotherapy. |
It's like the "dark arts of seduction" lol.
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cdfox7
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Every time I think pickup artists can't stoop any lower. |
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| MountZion wrote: | | cdfox7 wrote: | | MountZion wrote: | | OP, I believe the term for what those guys were talking about is "negging", which I personally think is manipulative, and only works on someone with low self-esteem, so it's kind of predatory in that respect (which kind of proves Erisad's point) |
Negging is a very crud form of hypnotic fractionation. Hypnotic fractionation is used in a non manipluative manner in both neuro-linguistic programming and Ericksonian hypnotherapy. |
It's like the "dark arts of seduction" lol. |
no its a tool like a hammer, its how you use that tool that makes it good or bad. You can use a hammer to hid a nail and you also use a hammer to hid a person with. Negging is basically using hypnotic fractionation as a weapon to cosh women subconsciously into having sex. |
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MountZion
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Every time I think pickup artists can't stoop any lower. |
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| cdfox7 wrote: | | MountZion wrote: | | cdfox7 wrote: | | MountZion wrote: | | OP, I believe the term for what those guys were talking about is "negging", which I personally think is manipulative, and only works on someone with low self-esteem, so it's kind of predatory in that respect (which kind of proves Erisad's point) |
Negging is a very crud form of hypnotic fractionation. Hypnotic fractionation is used in a non manipluative manner in both neuro-linguistic programming and Ericksonian hypnotherapy. |
It's like the "dark arts of seduction" lol. |
no its a tool like a hammer, its how you use that tool that makes it good or bad. You can use a hammer to hid a nail and you also use a hammer to hid a person with. Negging is basically using hypnotic fractionation as a weapon to cosh women subconsciously into having sex. |
 I know it's a tool, I pretty much alluded to that in my other post. I was kidding lol
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Tequila
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Does it work? I'd be more likely to get agitated with anyone trying that on me... |
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The_Face_of_Boo
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Do you want to to have a new girlfriend EVERY weekend?
Do you want to become an ALPHA male?
It's not that easy, but ANYONE can achieve this by adopting the Douchebagging Special Technique.
If you don't believe me, check the testimonials section! There are over 1000 of REAL success stories!
I am neither Christian Bale nor Bred Pitt, but now I can get almost ANY girl I want. Even a perfect 10/10 girl!
Just click here to buy my book "How to become a PUA douchebag" to learn and master the Douchebagging Special Technique.
And it's ONLY for $29.99 with a full set of DVDs!!
The results are GUARANTEED.
/typical PUA ad. |
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MountZion
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | Do you want to to have a new girlfriend EVERY weekend?
Do you want to become an ALPHA male?
It's not that easy, but ANYONE can achieve this by adopting the Douchebagging Special Technique.
If you don't believe me, check the testimonials section! There are over 1000 of REAL success stories!
I am neither Christian Bale nor Bred Pitt, but now I can get almost ANY girl I want. Even a perfect 10/10 girl!
Just click here to buy my book "How to become a PUA douchebag" to learn and master the Douchebagging Special Technique.
And it's ONLY for $29.99 with a full set of DVDs!!
The results are GUARANTEED.
/typical PUA ad. |
No.
They're usually 100 times longer than that
Not just good at getting a few girls, they are pretty good salesmen too, I must say.
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Erisad
More like Erihappy, amirite?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | Do you want to to have a new girlfriend EVERY weekend?
Do you want to become an ALPHA male?
It's not that easy, but ANYONE can achieve this by adopting the Douchebagging Special Technique.
If you don't believe me, check the testimonials section! There are over 1000 of REAL success stories!
I am neither Christian Bale nor Bred Pitt, but now I can get almost ANY girl I want. Even a perfect 10/10 girl!
Just click here to buy my book "How to become a PUA douchebag" to learn and master the Douchebagging Special Technique.
And it's ONLY for $29.99 with a full set of DVDs!!
The results are GUARANTEED.
/typical PUA ad. |
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The_Face_of_Boo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ You'll be mine for this weekend, Erisad. |
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Erisad
More like Erihappy, amirite?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | | ^ You'll be mine for this weekend, Erisad. |
Sorry, I got plans this weekend. I'm attending a wedding on Saturday and going to Rehoboth on Sunday. Maybe another time?  |
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cdfox7
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Tequila wrote: | | Does it work? I'd be more likely to get agitated with anyone trying that on me... |
what PUA, NLP or Ericksonian hypnotherapy? If you talking about NLP and Ericksonian hypnotherapy, I'll PM you info about a book to get you hands on, thats a good Introduction to those two therapies if you what me to. |
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The_Face_of_Boo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Erisad wrote: | | The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | | ^ You'll be mine for this weekend, Erisad. |
Maybe another time? |
Of course...... let's go out tonight!! |
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