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 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: "Stop calling it Autism!" (website) |
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Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've been here.
Came across this and was wondering: have any of you seen this, and if so, what do you think?
https://www.stopcallingitautism.org/
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buryuntime
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: |
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i agree with stop calling it autism when it is an allergy or vaccine reaction.
if someone thinks their autism or their child's autism is caused by those things, fine, but don't call it autism. it wouldn't be it. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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I clicked on the link and closed the browser window after seeing this, because I really don't need to see anything more:
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Chronos
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:35 am Post subject: Re: "Stop calling it Autism!" (website) |
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| conundrum wrote: | Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've been here.
Came across this and was wondering: have any of you seen this, and if so, what do you think?
https://www.stopcallingitautism.org/ |
My sister once pointed out that I was using the word "rain boots" when I actually meant "galoshes".You see while galoshes are sometimes called rain boots, it's generally not correct to call rain boots galoshes. Galoshes refer to a water proof device that can be slipped over shoes or boots, while rain boots generally are worn as the shoe or boot.... |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Jory wrote: | I clicked on the link and closed the browser window after seeing this, because I really don't need to see anything more:
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Which disease are they referring to, and where is the empirical evidence to back up their claim?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: |
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AUTISM ACCORDING TO SCIA
1. SCIA believes that children with autism suffer from an ongoing
inflammatory process in different regions of the brain produced
by microglial activation.
FAIL |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Seriously. The jargon there is just a fancy way of saying autism is a form of brain injury.
You get microglial activation anytime there's damage to the brain and spinal cord. They're the cleanup system--they cart away damaged cells, like if you have an SCI or a stroke. Autism just doesn't act like a brain injury.
The "ongoing inflammatory process" idea is bunk, too. If that were the case, you'd have autistics with a constant degenerative process, kind of like what you might see with Alzheimer's. But that's not what you see with autism at all. Autism causes atypical development from the beginning, and autistics overwhelmingly show improvement, not degeneration, as they grow and learn.
The idea of "autoimmune brain injury" might be relevant for Heller syndrome, with its dramatic regression after typical development (though I tend to think the mechanism is much more likely to be something like it is with Rett's). But for regular autism, with atypical development, with the tendency to lose access to skills only under stress/burnout, if at all... it's not a relevant idea.
I think this is just a bunch of parents thinking they can somehow turn their undesirably autistic children into the regular children they really want, and using jargon to justify it.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Recent evidence suggests that immune system dysfunction may be an important part of the disease and contribute to your child's symptoms. Participation in the study may shed light on any immune system dysfunction that your child may have. This information can be used by your child's health care provider in the decision making process regarding your child's care.
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Far as I know my immune system is working, and has always worked fine, I rarely get sick and have always been pretty healthy. I might get the flu once every five years and one or two colds a year but that's it.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| That's just another way for people to take advantage of parents who are in denial. |
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hanyo
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:07 am Post subject: |
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What do they think of autistic adults though? Do they think they had some "immune system dysfunction" since they were a child that no doctor ever noticed?
I think this site is bs. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Yet another group of parents of LFA's who just cling to the hope that someday they'll have a normal little snowflake.
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Peko
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: |
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They called it a disease, stopped reading it.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| Jory wrote: | I clicked on the link and closed the browser window after seeing this, because I really don't need to see anything more:
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WHAT the FCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
I have officially travelled back into the year of 1692
Man, im lost for thought at this. Maybe if i repent real hard ill be cured and my soul will be returned to me. Like, wtf. Who comes up with this horseshite |
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LemonPieForAPirate
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Lol did anyone see the videos ''Daniel cured from autism'' in the Autism can be beaten section. like wtf XD is this real? im really, is this a genuine thing? its just so stupid |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Snake-oil salesmen.
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