Vigilans
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| Raptor wrote: | | It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment. |
So you do believe in evolution  Just kidding, I think you're right, almost nobody is going to change for the individual with difficulties, best to adapt and do your best to work around disadvantages
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Raptor
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| Gedrene wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: |
When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission. |
Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment. |
I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.
Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse? |
You're really grasping at straws now! 
Adaptation is what it's all about since the world cannot be expected to adapt to us.
How hard can that be to understand????? |
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Green89tom
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah we aspies have to change because the world will not change for us. |
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Gedrene
Never give in. Always find a way.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: |
When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission. |
Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment. |
I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.
Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse? |
You're really grasping at straws now!
Adaptation is what it's all about since the world cannot be expected to adapt to us.
How hard can that be to understand????? |
Because for starters it isn't about adapting since why should I adapt to an imposition that NTs themselves recognise as such?
I have no problem with learning how to do anything wrothwhile but much of the time people complain about us in a way that is ultimately petty, and I would even go so far as to say that much of the time the problem is simply narrow-minded ignorance.
If anything 'adapting' to what other people do has produced people that by no means are actually adapted at all, and are trapped in this vacuous position where they are simply mirrors of their environment. Some NTs understand this, many do not care, some try and trample over us. Why don't you rather than be nothing more than a simple animal and adapt to your environment instead try and be human and adapt your environment.
Anyways I don't need someone telling me some stuffy, cowardly fatalism like there's no way they'd listen so we might as well bend our backs over. Who with a spine says that? |
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Beckula1980
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I work full time, have a boyfriend and a few friends...I have a life. |
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Raptor
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Gedrene wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: |
When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission. |
Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment. |
I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.
Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse? |
You're really grasping at straws now!
Adaptation is what it's all about since the world cannot be expected to adapt to us.
How hard can that be to understand????? |
Because for starters it isn't about adapting since why should I adapt to an imposition that NTs themselves recognise as such?
I have no problem with learning how to do anything wrothwhile but much of the time people complain about us in a way that is ultimately petty, and I would even go so far as to say that much of the time the problem is simply narrow-minded ignorance.
If anything 'adapting' to what other people do has produced people that by no means are actually adapted at all, and are trapped in this vacuous position where they are simply mirrors of their environment. Some NTs understand this, many do not care, some try and trample over us. Why don't you rather than be nothing more than a simple animal and adapt to your environment instead try and be human and adapt your environment.
Anyways I don't need someone telling me some stuffy, cowardly fatalism like there's no way they'd listen so we might as well bend our backs over. Who with a spine says that? |
Whatever,
You just be yourself doing everyrhing your way and live with your parents the rest of your life.
Now you'll come back and tell me you're a successful businessman or whatever just to prove me wrong.
This should be good............ |
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babybuggy32
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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do schizophrenics have a life? do black ppl have a life? i think not!
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auntblabby
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| when in rome [speaking figuratively] work at getting the hell out of that place express. there's no point in busting your soul to conform to a society that you find odious. i may be a white-trash hermit but at least i am living my own kind of white trash hermit life rather than that of one who pretends to be normal. i wouldn't join any society that would not have me. |
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aussiebloke
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| auntblabby wrote: | | when in rome [speaking figuratively] work at getting the hell out of that place express. there's no point in busting your soul to conform to a society that you find odious. i may be a white-trash hermit but at least i am living my own kind of white trash hermit life rather than that of one who pretends to be normal. i wouldn't join any society that would not have me. |
I like their are a lot of sell outs around here your not one nor am I 
Could it be one of the reasons I'm so fond of LonerMutant
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Sampson3434
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Did anyone consider that he was a troll? Either that or he was joking (rather poorly)
Successful troll is successful I guess. |
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Sylkat
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| Is anyone else wondering why the OP did not put this discussion in 'The Haven'? Maybe Sampson has a very good point...Sylkat |
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CaptainTrips222
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| Sampson3434 wrote: | | Did anyone consider that he was a troll? |
I guess not until you came along. God, five pages and everyone's just politely answering the guy. |
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Horus
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| aussiebloke wrote: | Because having a life is boring to an aspie
Why would aspie want to go to Bali or Baja and get drunk with the jocks and jockets ?
Why would aspie want to go to Seaworld and watch frightened and dispirated animals preform on command while you chow down $22 misery burgers? yes meat is murder
Why would apsie want to "do Europe" ie Contki Tour when that's nothing more than a root and booze tour
Why would aspie want to go to nightclub's where drunken and boring peope make an ass of themselves
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I agree with much of this, but travel has always been one of greatest passions....I just never have the money to do much of it 
I would not travel to engage the activities you mentioned here however. Mainly I would travel to enjoy the natural aspects of a given place and involve myself in nature-related/outdoor activities. There are some things human i'd travel for....the pyramids, the old towns of western Europe, etc.....
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Horus
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| aussiebloke wrote: | | auntblabby wrote: | | when in rome [speaking figuratively] work at getting the hell out of that place express. there's no point in busting your soul to conform to a society that you find odious. i may be a white-trash hermit but at least i am living my own kind of white trash hermit life rather than that of one who pretends to be normal. i wouldn't join any society that would not have me. |
I like their are a lot of sell outs around here your not one nor am I
Could it be one of the reasons I'm so fond of LonerMutant |
I agree.....there are a lot of sell-outs here....but that's typical of humans first and "Aspies" second.
The sell-outs here are the ones who are judgmental of others....especially others with AS. I see people here all the time who sound like the typical American conservatives (and quite a few of them are just that   ) who are always bellowing away with some tiresome "bootstraps" rhetoric.
How easily they forget that's one subjective, idiosyncratic nature and experiences account for almost everything in terms of their personal dichotomies of "success/failure", "happiness/unhappiness", "strength/weakness", etc.....
Such people are ignorant and arrogant beyond belief and never seem to grasp that most people who aren't "successful" (regardless of the type of "success" we're talking about) have an infinite, subtle and complex number of reasons for their *unsuccessful-ness*. Reasons which are most likely beyond their control entirely (unless you're one of those people who is CONVINCED humans have a quality which can genuinely be defined as "free will" AND if you're convinced we all have the same *amount* of free will) and wholly beyond the knowledge of the legend-in-their-own-minds making the judgments.
People with AS and other non-neurotypicals really OUGHT to know better. Aren't we capable a bit more critical thinking? A more thoughtful, nuanced, humble, introspective and contemplative way of viewing life? Above all....don't we of all peoples on this earth know why, "the caged bird sings"? Maybe some of us don't and if you're one of the non-NT's who doesn't.....you ought to be counting your uber-lucky stars every second of your life. You ought to be saying....."but for the grace of god....there go I" at your less fortunate fellows instead of f**king excoriating them for living in SSI poverty funland while you gripe about the horrors of co-workers at your high-falutin' programming job who fail your recognize your genius "Aspieskilz" c
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auntblabby
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^^^
give 'em hell, Horus 
you tell 'em.  |
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