Yoghourt
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| marshall wrote: | | I don't know what the heck "Today's Music" is. The 90s were the last iconic decade in music as far as I can tell. Most popular stuff beyond 2000 is derivative of past genres for the most part. There's nothing new under the sun anymore, unless you look really hard, and then you're considered a hipster. |
I totally agree with you.I havnt listen music such like top 40 stuff for ages. coz it would let me down again .For the music of past .I really did listen some of it in a row and never forward to change. |
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Blasty
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Today's mainstream music is, for the most part, terrible.
They're still making lots of good stuff though; it just doesn't get distributed by the mass media. |
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Actually, to back up today's music being terrible, I'm gonna just point to one thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler,_The_Creator was the "Best New Artist" at the MTV VMAs this year. Yay. With songs like...Odd Future - Kill People Burn sh** f**k School making said artist famous. So you can see how people would say today's music sucks... 
1984's Best New Artist was Eurythmics with "Sweet Dreams" and 1986's was A-ha with "Take on Me" so yeah... You can see how you'd get that impression that music today sucks.
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| I'd say not so much. For what the pop culture machine tries to jam down our throats as the in thing might not be all that far from the truth but, its been rather odd and specific times when it wasn't like that. I get the impression that one of these days soon the US may have the flurry of genious it did in the early 90's and may pick up for how much Britain's carried the torch for the last decade or so, we have to be getting to rock bottom here pretty soon and when the big record labels realize that we're sick to death of people who are famous for the sake of being famous and regurgitating a few hooks someone else gave them - they may be forced to take the risk on some artists who have real talent and, if the stuff is intelligent and they risk scaring off their prospective buyers by that - they won't really have a choice to keep playing it safe in that sense. |
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| There's still good music being made these days, you've just got to look for it in the right places. HINT: the radio isn't one of them. |
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Tiggurix
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| If we're talking about today's popular music, I have to say it does indeed suck big fat donkey cock. It's vapid, insipid, meaningless and dull, and nothing but a cash cow for overrated actresses/actors. |
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| Tiggurix wrote: | | If we're talking about today's popular music, I have to say it does indeed suck big fat donkey cock. It's vapid, insipid, meaningless and dull, and nothing but a cash cow for overrated actresses/actors. |
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Sunshine7
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| If it's bad, then how did it get popular? |
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I've just discovered Last.fm, it's good for tasting new stuff that links to stuff you know. I haven't found anything new and good that wasn't made by the same people making it five years ago.
Of popular music though, I love Lady Gaga. |
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| Sunshine7 wrote: | | If it's bad, then how did it get popular? |
Because the media promotes it and many people are sheep.
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| Sunshine7 wrote: | | If it's bad, then how did it get popular? |
Feel free to take this with a grain of salt if it really sounds outlandish, but, I've come to understand that people take music in in such different ways that it can be as far apart as night and day.
A lot of people out there simply look at it as social commodity - ie. whatever's popular; its a nonphysical form of clothing, its a badge of conformity; these are the people who'll diss anything that's not immediately popular - now - and will diss anyone who actually listens to music as music.
You also have people who confuse music with sports - hence they can really get overboard on a, technically, crap band because while their songs, melodies, and ideas are hackneyed, one cliche after another, they can't stop marveling at how good the drummer or guitarist is on a dexterity level or how great a show the band puts on live.
Truthfully I really get the impression that the amount of people who get into the ambience, the feel, the ideas, the headspace of songs, and really like music for music are, while a somewhat large minority, I'd give them maybe 35% to 40% of the population, are still a minority.
So how does crap get popular? Well, its only crap to people who actually *listen* to music, I don't know that there is such a thing though to the people who only like music as social currency, although these people do have one upfront rule that keeps intelligence off of the table much of the time - they hate deep thought in music, something about it kills their high. Hence, the most popular music - while not definitionally shallow (some band can slip past their radar) - more often than not it tends on the shallow side. Also music is marketed to youth, youth are terrified on the grounds of physical harm to break the rules. Who makes the rules? The people who are totalitarian haters of anything that isn't immediately stylish or doesn't enhance status. So - you have lots of people who hear music as Abercombie and Fitch, D&G, Diesel, or whatever brand of clothing is popular and these people, typically being the popular kids, have everyone else scared to think differently. |
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ashura96
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I haven't enjoyed anything mainstream or close to it since the turn of the century.
I was hoping it was just the style of the decade, but it seems the 2010's aren't getting any better :/
Oh well, I have tons of underground stuff and 90s to fill my musical needs. |
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Fleet Foxes are a great Indie folk band and Arcade Fire ranks as one of the greatest bands of all time in my eyes. Daft Punk is also generally pretty good, but I do find some of their songs extremely obnoxious. They Might be Giants and Jonathan Coulton are both some of the funniest artists ever.
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Chevand
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Taken as a rhetorical absolute, the whole argument about whether music these days is good or bad is meaningless and irrelevant. Good and bad are in the eye (or in this case, the ear) of the beholder, which means that, depending upon one's personal parameters concerning quality, one can always find some of the good and some of the bad no matter where or when you look. This is a matter of taste, and therefore, a relativistic question. Personally, how any person can take the Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Kanye West, Radiohead, the Black Keys, Tool, and Modest Mouse, and lump them all into a single valuistic judgment about "today's music" is beyond me. There will always be debate about each and every one of those artists-- some people will be diehard fans, and others will think they suck.
For those of you who think music of earlier decades was really that much better, I say: Look closer. For every Billy Joel or Carole King, there is a Captain and Tenille. For every Metallica, there is a Dokken. For every Nirvana, there is a Candlebox. And remember, Jimi Hendrix recorded "All Along The Watchtower" the same year that Richard Harris recorded "MacArthur Park".
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| fraac wrote: | | I've just discovered Last.fm, it's good for tasting new stuff that links to stuff you know. |
Actually this is kinda cool. Y'all use last.fm already? I've ignored it for years. I'm 'scrobbling' my mp3 player and it's recommending stuff, and the radio feature could easily become one of my main ways of listening to music. |
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