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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Autism "does not exist" article Reply with quote

An article in the Irish Examiner on Friday claims that autism is a diagnostic convenience for labelling kids deprived of love and emotional security. The author, Tony Humphreys, is a regular in the relationship / parenting / family circuit and writes regularly for the Examiner. He also has many self-help books to his name, though no actual peer-reviewed publications.

There is a transcript of the article at https://www.facebook.com/notes/irish-autism-action/core-connection-an-article-in-printed-edition-of-irish-examiner-3rd-feb/359928427353789
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That old "unloved child" theory. I thought we'd moved on from all that.

This from a consultant clinical psychologist:

http://www.tonyhumphreys.ie/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a load of crap
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish it didn't exist.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there might be something to be said about the whole love and emotional security thing, but first we must define love and emotional security, and then take into account the fact that it differs depending on the context, including culture, finances, and the needs of said child, and then remember that there are many other factors that are much more relevant that not only make up most of what autism is, but also contribute to the whole love and emotion thing. So unless this guy went into about 3,000 pages of detail, it's probably hogwash, and even then, I'm admittedly going out on a huge limb here. It's the best the Devil can advocate for this.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why are most abused or neglected kids not autistic?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was he French educated?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call BS.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Dr Tony Humphreys is a consultant clinical psychologist ..."

No surprise there Rolling Eyes Psychologists are to psychiatry and neurology what storks are to obstetrics.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he's just a really slow writer and he's actually been working on this article since the 60s.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Humphreys has created quite a storm - there were 150 comments and 50 shares on the Facebook page of Irish Autism Action https://www.facebook.com/notes/irish-autism-action/core-connection-an-article-in-printed-edition-of-irish-examiner-3rd-feb/359928427353789 and plenty of other angry blogs (e.g. http://thefamilyvoyage.blogspot.com/2012/02/irish-exainer-and-tony-humphreys-newold.html).

The best part is that Simon Baron-Cohen, whose research is heavily (mis)used in the Humphreys article, has Tweeted:
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@sbaroncohen Simon Baron-Cohen
Offensive Irish article blames autism on unemotional parenting and turns the clock back 50 years tiny.cc/ffxg8
http://twitter.com/#!/sbaroncohen/status/166435324074008576
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well! I don't always agree with Simon Baron-Cohen, but at least he's doing legit science. Good for him, standing up to that crap.

My mom loves me just fine, thank you very much. Smothers me sometimes, to be honest; I think she's trying to mother me from three states away! She's living proof the refrigerator-mother theory is bunk. She spent practically all her time interacting with me when I was little. It's probably why I learned to read so early, and sing; and maybe even why I learned to talk pretty much on time. I don't mean that she did therapy with me or anything, just that she never left me sitting in front of the TV or ignored me; and she spent lots of time reading to me and singing to me. Of course there were those times when I was tantruming and she couldn't stop me, or when I was just overloaded and running in circles, or just plain out of control--she thought I was a complete rebel, even at two--but she did just fine with me. The only things I would have changed about how she raised me was that she didn't get me evaluated for autism, even though she knew she should have; and that she married people who mistreated both of us, because she thought I needed a father, when in reality she was doing fine as a single mom--especially with a hyperactive autistic youngster like I was.

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Joe--hang in there. It's possible to be autistic and happy, I promise. Sounds like you're having a bad day; maybe do something you like, cheer yourself up a little. You don't have to think about discouraging things all the time. Sometimes you can just say to yourself "I'll think about that later" and relax for a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What rubbish! Probably gives a bunch of 1980's psychobable in his sel-help work.
I'm willing to wager on it, in fact.. Cool
The problem is parents find it hard to relate to children who DO NOT respond to them (not talking Aspergers, but Classical autism here..) so it looks cold from the outside..

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Autism "does not exist" article Reply with quote

StuartN wrote:
An article in the Irish Examiner on Friday claims that autism is a diagnostic convenience for labelling kids deprived of love and emotional security. The author, Tony Humphreys, is a regular in the relationship / parenting / family circuit and writes regularly for the Examiner. He also has many self-help books to his name, though no actual peer-reviewed publications.

There is a transcript of the article at https://www.facebook.com/notes/irish-autism-action/core-connection-an-article-in-printed-edition-of-irish-examiner-3rd-feb/359928427353789


I can defeat his hypothesis very easily. My NVLD for all intensive purposes, acts like Aspergers or HFA. It's due to deficiencies likely in my right brain, it's a brain damage or issue. So, it makes my verbal IQ like 130+, but my nonverbal about 80 (not just social cues, but things like mathematics, visual spatial, etc.) I'm guessing there's lots of people with Aspergers diagnosed who actually have NVLD. I mean, I'm sure he's right SOMETIMES, but other times there's legitimate neurological issues going on, that no matter what, no matter how much you learn, how much social practice and contact you get, still affect you.

Whatever, let him have his fun with his ignorant opinions based on his psychology religion.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
He also has many self-help books to his name


And... The guy lost all the credit.
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