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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait for ACTA Laughing
pull the plug it will, mhmhehmmm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Deleting WP presence Reply with quote

Dilbert wrote:
purchase wrote:
Oh, people who know workarounds, please tell me there's a way to delete all my posts on WP. I know officially there's no way since I asked in the wrongplanet.net discussion forum but I really and truly regret posting all the stuff I've posted here publicly.


You can't.

Your data already exists not just on WP servers, but on their backups, on their provider's backups, at their secondary data center, in the Internet Archive, cached by BING and Google, on computers of all the people that have read your topics (ther browser cache, and THEIR backups), the government has a copy (NSA has a tap straight into the AT&T backbones).

Anything posted on the Internet is available forever and ever, in many different locations.

Data on the Internet is kind of like life. It copies and multiplies and is impossible to completely destroy.


Uggg....my first reaction to your post made my stomach turn (thanks *lol*)...but then I had a thought.

Perhaps one way to mess with anyone who wants to follow you (by your user name) is to cause confusion with the user name.
Create a "John Smith" duplicity effect. If there are many users with the same user name (in different forums all over the internet), how would anyone know which one is you, or if you're all the same or all different people?

(Computer savvy people could figure out you're you by your DNS/IP, but most average users wouldn't know)....I know, that's a crazy idea.

I guess the question for each user concerned about this issue is: Who are you most concerned about seeing your posts here: Is it the government, your job, your family and friends, or people who know you "in real life" and might be able to find you here?


For me, besides my logging in here from work, there's probably only one person (besides my husband) who would know to look for me by this user name, and I kinda doubt he would care to look. The US government is already following millions of people, so I don't care if they know I might be a person with AS.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let the word go forth. Anyone who wants to remain invisible must stay off line.

If you never log in anywhere, you don't exist.

Also do not have a bank account, birth certificate or a social security number or taxpayer id.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnord wrote:
What if ... a member accidentally posted copyrighted material, and now wants it deleted before the copyright holder finds out?

Embarassed


Use copyrighted material in every post ?

or get someone else to copyright your user name *lol*
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnord wrote:
What if ... a member accidentally posted copyrighted material, and now wants it deleted before the copyright holder finds out?

Embarassed

Yeah, I have always thought about that!
If I ever make a forum Im starting to wonder if I should put a delete function in for that very purpose.
I think the reason why they dont allow deleting incase if someone where to bully some one via a topic, they could delete it and deny any claims of that ever happening.
But I have a solution. A user can delete a post, but only mods can see it. Although, that (I assume) would still be infringement, but the copyright holder probably wouldn't find out. I might be wrong, but thats what I think. Im certainly no lawyer. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madbones wrote:
Fnord wrote:
What if ... a member accidentally posted copyrighted material, and now wants it deleted before the copyright holder finds out?

Embarassed

Yeah, I have always thought about that!
If I ever make a forum Im starting to wonder if I should put a delete function in for that very purpose.
I think the reason why they dont allow deleting incase if someone where to bully some one via a topic, they could delete it and deny any claims of that ever happening.
But I have a solution. A user can delete a post, but only mods can see it. Although, that (I assume) would still be infringement, but the copyright holder probably wouldn't find out. I might be wrong, but thats what I think. Im certainly no lawyer. Very Happy


On WP we tend to remove posts or threads rather than delete them. They are moved into a hidden forum that only moderators can see. That way if there has been a mistake or if there is any issue about those posts in the future they can still be referred to. After those posts have been moved into the hidden forum they are no longer visible to Google or any other search engine.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DELETE(ing) every post by a given user is actually a really easy thing to do (at least from this forums database) it simply requires the typing of DELETE FROM <whatever they call the post table> WHERE <UserId <- the most likely name of the field> = <persons UserId> into the correct interface (sometimes attainable by illegal methods but it is highly unlikely to find an unparameterized query string nowadays)

Among hacker communities people are often identified by their public key or other encrypted means. I can think of multiple likely methods (if given some knowledge of the backend) of hiding usernames from bots of any source. With the advent of the Tor network and Freenet gateways to the regular internet one can find many ways of being relatively certain that no one is going to trace back your forum posts to you. While I have not played much with Tor sites it might be a reasonable way to create a site where you could be 90% certain that no one that is going to care can reasonably trace your posts back to you (Freenet is another possibility but it is incredibly slow). The internet is a wide and diverse place. If there is a desire for a site with the utmost of privacy available it can be created if we get together a fair group of like minded Aspies. I for one feel no need to hide my identity to that extreme but I would probably find great joy in figuring out how to set something up with that level/sort of security.

I am by no means a security expert I do however tend to have a lot of time on my hands that I like to dedicate to studying if anyone would like to join me.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a solution could be to make most subforums viewable to guests but topics that are more than 3 months old are only viewable to members. I also think The Haven, L&D, and a lot of those forums where people get very personal should be completely off limits to guests
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