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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Can someone explain hipsters to me? Reply with quote

So what it seems like to me is that people who identify as "hipsters" (or those who do everything hipsters do but deny being a hipster) set out to do things that are "uncool", because they are uncool, talk about how cool they are, until people think they're cool, then dismiss them as "uncool" because people think they are cool, and find something else "uncool" to do, while claiming that because they do "uncool" stuff, that they don't care what other people think. But if they don't care what people think, why not just do what they enjoy, without worrying about whether it's "cool" or not? Is it that cool to be uncool? Or is this some inexplicable cultural phenomenon?

FWIW, I do both "cool" and "uncool" stuff, I care a little bit at times what people think, but not so much that I stop doing something I enjoy because of it. If something I do that people consider uncool suddenly becomes cool, GREAT! More people to enjoy it with! If something I do is cool and it becomes uncool, oh well, if I really enjoy it I'll keep doing it no matter what people think.

Am I just misunderstanding the whole thing?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff Hipsters Hate

Check out the above link.

Also, watch the movie Juno.

Those are as good a place to start as any.

God help you. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HA! It's so funny that you mention Juno. I knew Kimya Dawson (as in actually had conversations with her, I didn't even know she was a musician at the time) before Juno was produced.



..... does that make me a hipster? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.latfh.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Can someone explain hipsters to me? Reply with quote

Onewithwings wrote:
So what it seems like to me is that people who identify as "hipsters" (or those who do everything hipsters do but deny being a hipster) set out to do things that are "uncool", because they are uncool, talk about how cool they are, until people think they're cool, then dismiss them as "uncool" because people think they are cool, and find something else "uncool" to do, while claiming that because they do "uncool" stuff, that they don't care what other people think. But if they don't care what people think, why not just do what they enjoy, without worrying about whether it's "cool" or not? Is it that cool to be uncool? Or is this some inexplicable cultural phenomenon?

FWIW, I do both "cool" and "uncool" stuff, I care a little bit at times what people think, but not so much that I stop doing something I enjoy because of it. If something I do that people consider uncool suddenly becomes cool, GREAT! More people to enjoy it with! If something I do is cool and it becomes uncool, oh well, if I really enjoy it I'll keep doing it no matter what people think.

Am I just misunderstanding the whole thing?



ahahahahhahaa...

That's the best description I've heard of a "hipster".

I was a hipster BEFORE it was UNcool, heh
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onewithwings wrote:
HA! It's so funny that you mention Juno. I knew Kimya Dawson (as in actually had conversations with her, I didn't even know she was a musician at the time) before Juno was produced.



..... does that make me a hipster? Laughing


Only if you are very disgusted with her because she sold out. Oh, and you don't like her NOW.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the day, what's now called a "hipster" is what I liked to call a 'conforming non-conformist'.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vigilans wrote:
http://www.latfh.com/


Thanks for the laugh!

Moog wrote:
nope


Well that's a relief.

Krychek wrote:
I was a hipster BEFORE it was UNcool, heh


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Back in the day, what's now called a "hipster" is what I liked to call a 'conforming non-conformist'.


Reminds me of that South Park episode where they made up a dance crew because they got "served". They were looking for dancers and asked the goth kids, but they were like "No way man! We're non-conformists!" then the one kid was like "You know what? I'm such a non-conformist, that I'm not gonna conform to any of you guys. Okay, I'll do it."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here was me thinking hipsters were a style of jeans...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OliveOilMom wrote:
Only if you are very disgusted with her because she sold out. Oh, and you don't like her NOW.


Nope, still love her!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Filthy Critic summed up hipsters pretty well in his review of Juno.

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Page is supposed to be into late 60s garage rock like Iggy Pop and Mott the Hoople. While she talks about how she digs it, Juno's soundtrack is far softer and phonier, full of mopey 90s and oughties whiners in cardigans. Further, her claimed love of that sort of music and the horror of Italian hack Dario Argento don't inform her character in any way. In real life, both of these cultural touchstones are generally beloved by assholes who like telling you they are into them far more than they really are. Any time someone brings up Argento in your presence, run, run like the wind. Pretension is a'coming. Really, Page doesn't act like she would be into those things. I think that's mainly because the movie just says she digs that s**t to make her sound quirky and independent. And when she opens her mouth, she doesn't tell us a God damn thing about herself. She just tells us what pop references Diablo Cody thinks are cool and make her sound "out there".
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onewithwings wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Back in the day, what's now called a "hipster" is what I liked to call a 'conforming non-conformist'.


Reminds me of that South Park episode where they made up a dance crew because they got "served". They were looking for dancers and asked the goth kids, but they were like "No way man! We're non-conformists!" then the one kid was like "You know what? I'm such a non-conformist, that I'm not gonna conform to any of you guys. Okay, I'll do it."


Laughing that part made me laugh really hard
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