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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bah most pro cure anti cure buisness is self indulgant emotional BS,

research is alwayts needed, people have a right to choose and we are all too different (nt's and aspies alike) that any one absolutist answer will ever be right, no matter what that answer might be.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalurker wrote:
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Still, I wouldn't want anyone fixing my kids with gene therapy. Let them (kids) decide what they want when they are able to think for themselves and think outside of the information that is handed to them. Obviously giving them only info from Autism Speaks and other genocidal organizations won't help. The really do need to be able to think for themselves and be kept from developing the standard media driven opinions or opinions simply of rebellion to the media driven opinions. Either would be just as bad.


Who would choose to remain impaired? Seriously. Tell me. Anyway, even children would choose not to be impaired. Even a child has the sense to do basic things that are beneficial for them. Just an experience of their existence in nature would be all the info. they would need. What does Autism Speaks have to do with genocide? Ironic, that you say that you want children to decide, but you say that you don't want yours to be fixed. What of the opinion of your own children?


AFAIK, though I might have been misinformed, Autism Speaks was developing a genetic test to help people identify children with Autism with the purpose of preventing them from being born. I've read some other posts and perhaps this was not their intent, I will have to get better educated on the matter. I'm sorry, I meant I don't want anyone fixing my kids without their consent. I wouldn't mind an aspie kid wanting to bi-function and have both neurotypical and savant neurodiversity, I would love to have this, but I would worry that perceptions in the media might influence my aspie kid to believe that he needs to give up being who he is. I would certainly have many F2F discussions with my kids about it and make sure they were completely open with me about their thoughts. I wouldn't hide my motives and I would explain that it's ok to want more experience and talent out of life. I also, as I've stated earlier in threads you read that I want establish culture before using gene therapy, society is still under development and ever improving. What today doesn't fly, might be just fine with a different mentality among us.

As for LFAs, I suppose the test would be whether or not they could raise children of their own. Evolution stops where there isn't another generation, so I wouldn't be enabling their evolution if I didn't allow them to procreate. I would probably want to see my LFA become a multi-talented talented aspie and possibly bi-functionality as a secondary choice. Of course I'm also expecting immortality to arrive, so there should be plenty of time in a person's life for this.

I'm tired as I write this, so expect I may change some of my positions at a later time...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Western PA? (grammar gave you away... or it's a typo)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Western PA? (grammar gave you away... or it's a typo)


hmm?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you used "needs (verbed)" instead of "needs to be (verbed)." Can't find your post... tired maybe it was someone else... gotta get some rest... night all
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AFAIK, though I might have been misinformed, Autism Speaks was developing a genetic test to help people identify children with Autism with the purpose of preventing them from being born.

Genetic tests wouldn't necessarily lead to preventing them from being born. Gene therapy likely would be involved rather.
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I also, as I've stated earlier in threads you read that I want establish culture before using gene therapy, society is still under development and ever improving. What today doesn't fly, might be just fine with a different mentality among us.

I don't get what culture should be established.

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I would probably want to see my LFA become a multi-talented talented aspie and possibly bi-functionality as a secondary choice. Of course I'm also expecting immortality to arrive, so there should be plenty of time in a person's life for this.

That's a great idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalurker wrote:
webcam wrote:

AFAIK, though I might have been misinformed, Autism Speaks was developing a genetic test to help people identify children with Autism with the purpose of preventing them from being born.

Genetic tests wouldn't necessarily lead to preventing them from being born. Gene therapy likely would be involved rather.
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I also, as I've stated earlier in threads you read that I want establish culture before using gene therapy, society is still under development and ever improving. What today doesn't fly, might be just fine with a different mentality among us.

I don't get what culture should be established.

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I would probably want to see my LFA become a multi-talented talented aspie and possibly bi-functionality as a secondary choice. Of course I'm also expecting immortality to arrive, so there should be plenty of time in a person's life for this.

That's a great idea.


The culture of NTs is a result of the fabric they form as a whole, understanding each other because they see what others do and it is also what they do. This allows them to develop their nonverbal forms of communication. Notice that foreigners, even NTs have different forms of NV communications that are difficult to understand, yet they communicate by these means just fine and it is often difficult for them to adjust to a new society and we always know they are foreign for their mannerisms. It is the same with us, we just share a culture that is more largely driven by genetic factors. We are still very diverse, but living with a significant number of people like ourselves will build a culture similar to what others have and we will become more confident when we know each other and our culture.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to say something, but I forgot what it was.
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