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MagicToenail
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| Fnord wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | I've seen no shortage of blatant contempt from the democrats for anything they consider rich or even middle class.
Even the democrats that are rich themselves have the nerve to hold other rich people in contempt... |
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Here are some Liberal behaviors that make me reluctant to discuss anything with them:
• Conversation with liberal are usually peppered with political-correctness booby traps. Try saying "Boy, it's hot out" around a Liberal, and time how fast he or she comes to accusing you of racism.
• Everyone is a victim, except wealthy white males. It does not matter who has what problem, it is somehow a poorly-defined cabal of wealthy white males that is somehow at fault. Just being a white male with a six-figure income automatically makes you a villain to Liberals.
• Liberals constantly violate the unwritten rule that politics, religion, and sexuality should be off-limits in casual conversations. It's as if everything is somehow tied to one or more of these three topics. Whatever you say, whatever you do, somehow has become their area of expertise and they are more than willing to jam their points of view down your throats.
• Political issues are personal issues, and vice versa. If one is a homosexual pygmy eskimo, then sexuality, height, and polar environments are their political obsessions. If one of them has a medical condition, then everybody should care, drop everything, and get involved in finding a cure.
• Finally, Liberals seem more than willing to spend dumploads of money on social programs, as long as none of that money is their own.
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We now return you to the Grover Norquist thread, already in progress... |
Hi, Fnord-love your name. GURPS fan here, so I got the reference.
Don't think "the rich" should be held in contempt (except for slum lords, oil executives who knowingly violate environmental and saftey laws, etc) but they shouldn't be regarded as the Ubermench and the font of all knowledge either. True, a lot of them are there because of hard work and brains (Bil Gates), but some are there through inherited wealth (Donald Trump) or no bid government contracts (H. Ross Perot). Ever read Ibsen's "Enemy of The People?" It's an early cautionary tale of how "the little guy" is right and how "corportate interests" are often short sighted and wrong and corrupt everything. Yeah, before you ask the environment is my sacred cow.
It isn't just AIDS activists who are strident about their pet medical condition, though. Aren't most (though not all) anti-vaccination activists on the conservative side? (Jenny Mc Carthy who seems pretty apolitical is an exception) |
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Grover Norquist: A disgrace |
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| MagicToenail wrote: | | Fnord wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | I've seen no shortage of blatant contempt from the democrats for anything they consider rich or even middle class.
Even the democrats that are rich themselves have the nerve to hold other rich people in contempt... |
[RANT]
Here are some Liberal behaviors that make me reluctant to discuss anything with them:
• Conversation with liberal are usually peppered with political-correctness booby traps. Try saying "Boy, it's hot out" around a Liberal, and time how fast he or she comes to accusing you of racism.
• Everyone is a victim, except wealthy white males. It does not matter who has what problem, it is somehow a poorly-defined cabal of wealthy white males that is somehow at fault. Just being a white male with a six-figure income automatically makes you a villain to Liberals.
• Liberals constantly violate the unwritten rule that politics, religion, and sexuality should be off-limits in casual conversations. It's as if everything is somehow tied to one or more of these three topics. Whatever you say, whatever you do, somehow has become their area of expertise and they are more than willing to jam their points of view down your throats.
• Political issues are personal issues, and vice versa. If one is a homosexual pygmy eskimo, then sexuality, height, and polar environments are their political obsessions. If one of them has a medical condition, then everybody should care, drop everything, and get involved in finding a cure.
• Finally, Liberals seem more than willing to spend dumploads of money on social programs, as long as none of that money is their own.
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We now return you to the Grover Norquist thread, already in progress... |
Hi, Fnord-love your name. GURPS fan here, so I got the reference.
Don't think "the rich" should be held in contempt (except for slum lords, oil executives who knowingly violate environmental and saftey laws, etc) but they shouldn't be regarded as the Ubermench and the font of all knowledge either. True, a lot of them are there because of hard work and brains (Bil Gates), but some are there through inherited wealth (Donald Trump) or no bid government contracts (H. Ross Perot). Ever read Ibsen's "Enemy of The People?" It's an early cautionary tale of how "the little guy" is right and how "corportate interests" are often short sighted and wrong and corrupt everything. Yeah, before you ask the environment is my sacred cow.
It isn't just AIDS activists who are strident about their pet medical condition, though. Aren't most (though not all) anti-vaccination activists on the conservative side? (Jenny Mc Carthy who seems pretty apolitical is an exception) |
Almost everybody I've known of on an anti-vaccine kick is to the right. Just think of how Michelle Bachmann had tried to spread the falsehood that the HPV vaccination would cause mental retardation in children not previously retarded. I challenge anyone to come up with a liberal who's jumped on the anti-vaccine wagon.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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marshall
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| Raptor wrote: | Master_Pedant wrote:
| Quote: | | Given your obsession with "pwnage", I think it's pretty obvious that you're a troll, btw. |
A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black as I’ve seen here. I’ve been here two years longer than you and I have 1750 posts as of this writing to your 4316 troll bating threads and replies. But like I told one of your cronies in another post; any thought or opinion that runs contrary to liberal ideology counts as trolling in a liberal’s book.
So much for diversity, eh?
You slammed yourself in your last post in this thread and here you do it again by grasping pathetically at straws.
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His threads aren't "troll baiting" just because they cause you butthurtness. Maybe conservatives aren't the primary intended audience of his threads? Did you ever think of that? Trolling is when you have no arguments other than "neener neener" and school-yard taunts directed at individual members.
Also, it's conservative ideology that divides the world up into two camps, itself and everything outside itself. I love how I'm "one of MP's cronies" now too.  |
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Hard as it is for you to believe, I really don't watch the news that much. |
Quite easy to believe.
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When I do watch it, though, it is indeed FOX and will continue to be. |
That's not "News." That's "Noise.'
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I've heard Hannity's radio show a few times and what little I heard I had to agree with. I don't remember what the topics were at the time, though. |
It is very typical for Hannity's listeners to agree with him without know what he is talking about.
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Same goes for Limbaugh since I know you'll bring him up next. |
Limbaugh is a big fat idiot and a closet homosexual.
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You cannot get me to feel bad about being a conservative. |
We can still pity you.
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No one made me one, I became one completely on my own. |
There may be a genetic component, in addition to the brainwashing. Conservatives don't become Conservatives completely on their own. |
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goodwitchy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Grover Norquist: A disgrace |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | MagicToenail wrote: | | Fnord wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | I've seen no shortage of blatant contempt from the democrats for anything they consider rich or even middle class.
Even the democrats that are rich themselves have the nerve to hold other rich people in contempt... |
[RANT]
Here are some Liberal behaviors that make me reluctant to discuss anything with them:
• Conversation with liberal are usually peppered with political-correctness booby traps. Try saying "Boy, it's hot out" around a Liberal, and time how fast he or she comes to accusing you of racism.
• Everyone is a victim, except wealthy white males. It does not matter who has what problem, it is somehow a poorly-defined cabal of wealthy white males that is somehow at fault. Just being a white male with a six-figure income automatically makes you a villain to Liberals.
• Liberals constantly violate the unwritten rule that politics, religion, and sexuality should be off-limits in casual conversations. It's as if everything is somehow tied to one or more of these three topics. Whatever you say, whatever you do, somehow has become their area of expertise and they are more than willing to jam their points of view down your throats.
• Political issues are personal issues, and vice versa. If one is a homosexual pygmy eskimo, then sexuality, height, and polar environments are their political obsessions. If one of them has a medical condition, then everybody should care, drop everything, and get involved in finding a cure.
• Finally, Liberals seem more than willing to spend dumploads of money on social programs, as long as none of that money is their own.
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We now return you to the Grover Norquist thread, already in progress... |
Hi, Fnord-love your name. GURPS fan here, so I got the reference.
Don't think "the rich" should be held in contempt (except for slum lords, oil executives who knowingly violate environmental and saftey laws, etc) but they shouldn't be regarded as the Ubermench and the font of all knowledge either. True, a lot of them are there because of hard work and brains (Bil Gates), but some are there through inherited wealth (Donald Trump) or no bid government contracts (H. Ross Perot). Ever read Ibsen's "Enemy of The People?" It's an early cautionary tale of how "the little guy" is right and how "corportate interests" are often short sighted and wrong and corrupt everything. Yeah, before you ask the environment is my sacred cow.
It isn't just AIDS activists who are strident about their pet medical condition, though. Aren't most (though not all) anti-vaccination activists on the conservative side? (Jenny Mc Carthy who seems pretty apolitical is an exception) |
Almost everybody I've known of on an anti-vaccine kick is to the right. Just think of how Michelle Bachmann had tried to spread the falsehood that the HPV vaccination would cause mental retardation in children not previously retarded. I challenge anyone to come up with a liberal who's jumped on the anti-vaccine wagon.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
I don't consider myself on the anti-vaccine wagon, (and I abhor the dingbat Michele Bachmann), however, while I do think most childhood vaccines are useful and are probably more beneficial than harmful, I don't agree that ALL vaccines should be mandatory;
just as an example, Rick PArry's STD vaccine for instance, and if they ever mandate the flu vaccine, I will protest.
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goodwitchy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Grover Norquist: A disgrace |
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| Fnord wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | I've seen no shortage of blatant contempt from the democrats for anything they consider rich or even middle class.
Even the democrats that are rich themselves have the nerve to hold other rich people in contempt... |
[RANT]
Here are some Liberal behaviors that make me reluctant to discuss anything with them:
• Conversation with liberal are usually peppered with political-correctness booby traps. Try saying "Boy, it's hot out" around a Liberal, and time how fast he or she comes to accusing you of racism.
• Everyone is a victim, except wealthy white males. It does not matter who has what problem, it is somehow a poorly-defined cabal of wealthy white males that is somehow at fault. Just being a white male with a six-figure income automatically makes you a villain to Liberals.
• Liberals constantly violate the unwritten rule that politics, religion, and sexuality should be off-limits in casual conversations. It's as if everything is somehow tied to one or more of these three topics. Whatever you say, whatever you do, somehow has become their area of expertise and they are more than willing to jam their points of view down your throats.
• Political issues are personal issues, and vice versa. If one is a homosexual pygmy eskimo, then sexuality, height, and polar environments are their political obsessions. If one of them has a medical condition, then everybody should care, drop everything, and get involved in finding a cure.
• Finally, Liberals seem more than willing to spend dumploads of money on social programs, as long as none of that money is their own.
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We now return you to the Grover Norquist thread, already in progress... |
I have no issues with males (or females) who make 6 figure salaries. But I take issue in particular with CEOs who make 7 and 8 figure salaries AND seem eager to close factories in the US to move manufacturing overseas, lay off people with many years of dedication, service, and experience, all for the sake of holding and increasing the stock price and trimming the bottom line.
Are these the logical decisions for CEOs in the USA? Perhaps that's the easy way out, but maybe it just seems that way because lobbyists who represent corporate interests are not concerned with how laws and policies effect employment numbers in the US, and are more concerned with making it easy for corporations to find tax havens and avoid regulation.
Can't there be a happy medium?
PS: I concede that many Democrats are also beholden to those big donors who "support" them.
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Grover Norquist: A disgrace |
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| goodwitchy wrote: | | Fnord wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | I've seen no shortage of blatant contempt from the democrats for anything they consider rich or even middle class.
Even the democrats that are rich themselves have the nerve to hold other rich people in contempt... |
[RANT]
Here are some Liberal behaviors that make me reluctant to discuss anything with them:
• Conversation with liberal are usually peppered with political-correctness booby traps. Try saying "Boy, it's hot out" around a Liberal, and time how fast he or she comes to accusing you of racism.
• Everyone is a victim, except wealthy white males. It does not matter who has what problem, it is somehow a poorly-defined cabal of wealthy white males that is somehow at fault. Just being a white male with a six-figure income automatically makes you a villain to Liberals.
• Liberals constantly violate the unwritten rule that politics, religion, and sexuality should be off-limits in casual conversations. It's as if everything is somehow tied to one or more of these three topics. Whatever you say, whatever you do, somehow has become their area of expertise and they are more than willing to jam their points of view down your throats.
• Political issues are personal issues, and vice versa. If one is a homosexual pygmy eskimo, then sexuality, height, and polar environments are their political obsessions. If one of them has a medical condition, then everybody should care, drop everything, and get involved in finding a cure.
• Finally, Liberals seem more than willing to spend dumploads of money on social programs, as long as none of that money is their own.
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We now return you to the Grover Norquist thread, already in progress... |
I have no issues with males (or females) who make 6 figure salaries. But I take issue in particular with CEOs who make 7 and 8 figure salaries AND seem eager to close factories in the US to move manufacturing overseas, lay off people with many years of dedication, service, and experience, all for the sake of holding and increasing the stock price and trimming the bottom line.
Are these the logical decisions for CEOs in the USA? Perhaps that's the easy way out, but maybe it just seems that way because lobbyists who represent corporate interests are not concerned with how laws and policies effect employment numbers in the US, and are more concerned with making it easy for corporations to find tax havens and avoid regulation.
Can't there be a happy medium?
PS: I concede that many Democrats are also beholden to those big donors who "support" them. |
Absolutely are Democrats beholden to their big donors, and I am very critical of my own party for that. I seriously hope the president can severe his ties to Wall Street in his next four years.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | Master_Pedant wrote:
| Quote: | | Given your obsession with "pwnage", I think it's pretty obvious that you're a troll, btw. |
A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black as I’ve seen here. I’ve been here two years longer than you and I have 1750 posts as of this writing to your 4316 troll bating threads and replies. But like I told one of your cronies in another post; any thought or opinion that runs contrary to liberal ideology counts as trolling in a liberal’s book.
So much for diversity, eh?
You slammed yourself in your last post in this thread and here you do it again by grasping pathetically at straws.
Kraichgauer wrote:
| Quote: | | Number 1) Stalin was occupying half of Europe by the end of the war, so it's doubtful that Roosevelt or anyone else could have dislodged the Red Army. The charge that FDR had just handed Stalin Eastern Europe is facetious. On top of that, Stalin was an ally who had made promises to America and Britain to allow free elections - in which case the only one to blame for reneging on those promises lies with Stalin. |
It’s called let Stalin liberate as much of Eastern Europe as possible then drive them out since the red army would be too bled out and overextended. At that stage they couldn’t do anything about it but cry on the long march back to the Motherland and the western allies would have had at least ALL of Germany to occupy and then some. Anything but making deals with that communist butcher.
| Quote: | | And number 2) MacArthur had disrespected his commander-in-chief, who just happened to have been Harry Truman. The general had kept pushing the envelope and disobeying Truman that the president had no choice but to fire him. |
MacArthur was in it to win while your boy Truman was in bed with the reds like his old boss was. Call it de-escalation but it is what it is; reds taking care of reds. |
I don't know where you're getting your history from, but Stalin liberated eastern Europe because geographically the Soviet Union was immediately at hand to occupy the region, whereas at that time, we were fighting for every inch of ground since hitting Normandy. Nobody 'let" Stalin have anything. And again, I'll remind you, Stalin was an ally back then, and so no one was going to deny him the spoils of war. And as far as the Red Army being weak and over extended - that's a myth. In fact, the soviet forces were stronger by the end of the war than they had been at the beginning. Had we attempted a land war against Stalin, it's possible we might have faced a replay of Hitler's failure on the Eastern Front. And incidentally, while Patton had wanted to race the Soviets to Berlin, he wasn't overruled by Roosevelt, but by Eisenhower - who later ran for president as a Republican.
And by the way, Truman's anti-communist credentials were impeccable. He was the guy who rebuilt western Europe in order to keep communism from taking root there, and established an alliance of democratic nations to fight the East Block.
The idea that FDR or Truman had been "in bed with the reds" is nothing but right wing fantasy. Were mistakes made in regard to our international dealings with the communists? Of course; but that was due to a lack of hindsight. Presidents like Roosevelt and Truman did what they perceived to have been right at the time.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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| Quote: | | I don't know where you're getting your history from, but Stalin liberated eastern Europe because geographically the Soviet Union was immediately at hand to occupy the region, whereas at that time, we were fighting for every inch of ground since hitting Normandy. Nobody 'let" Stalin have anything. And again, I'll remind you, Stalin was an ally back then, and so no one was going to deny him the spoils of war. And as far as the Red Army being weak and over extended - that's a myth. In fact, the soviet forces were stronger by the end of the war than they had been at the beginning. |
Stalin was an ally of convenience to provide an eastern front. I forgot where I read it but the red army had exhausted itself by VE day or at least enough to be vulnerable to an attack from the west. It would not have been popular to bully them out of Eastern Europe at that time when peace had been so close at hand but in the long run the end would have justified the means. It would have even been possible to provoke them into initiating a fight then they would appear to be the aggressors. I could list the benefits of having eastern Europe free of them but to what avail. You’d just say it’s all BS and counter it with your own "facts" just to have the last word. And, yes, I’d deny Stalin the spoils of war and sleep like a log at night.
It’s about containment.
| Quote: | | Had we attempted a land war against Stalin, it's possible we might have faced a replay of Hitler's failure on the Eastern Front. And incidentally, while Patton had wanted to race the Soviets to Berlin, he wasn't overruled by Roosevelt, but by Eisenhower - who later ran for president as a Republican. |
So what if Eisenhower was a republican? Unlike yourself, I don’t blindly worship any political party. Ike was more apt to show favoritism to Montgomery than Patton and that ended up costing where it didn’t have to. Market Garden was a good example.
Hitler’s campaign (Barbarossa) was fraught with self-induced problems that pretty much guaranteed a defeat for Germany. That’s a topic in its own, though. The idea was to remove soviet forces from eastern Europe, not to invade Russia proper.
This is something Patton wanted to do but they said he was crazy, of course.
| Quote: | | And by the way, Truman's anti-communist credentials were impeccable. He was the guy who rebuilt western Europe in order to keep communism from taking root there, and established an alliance of democratic nations to fight the East Block. |
Truman’s policies of soviet containment were more talk than anything. The Truman Doctrine to name one, as remember studying, was rather weak considering its intended purpose.
| Quote: | | The idea that FDR or Truman had been "in bed with the reds" is nothing but right wing fantasy. Were mistakes made in regard to our international dealings with the communists? Of course; but that was due to a lack of hindsight. Presidents like Roosevelt and Truman did what they perceived to have been right at the time. |
Roosevelt was notorious for favoring Stalin (communist) as an ally over Churchill (conservative). That really speaks volumes about Roosevelt’s character or rather lack of it.
I could go on into greater detail but I think I’ve made my point. |
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Raptor
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| marshall wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | Master_Pedant wrote:
| Quote: | | Given your obsession with "pwnage", I think it's pretty obvious that you're a troll, btw. |
A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black as I’ve seen here. I’ve been here two years longer than you and I have 1750 posts as of this writing to your 4316 troll bating threads and replies. But like I told one of your cronies in another post; any thought or opinion that runs contrary to liberal ideology counts as trolling in a liberal’s book.
So much for diversity, eh?
You slammed yourself in your last post in this thread and here you do it again by grasping pathetically at straws.
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His threads aren't "troll baiting" just because they cause you butthurtness. Maybe conservatives aren't the primary intended audience of his threads? Did you ever think of that? Trolling is when you have no arguments other than "neener neener" and school-yard taunts directed at individual members.
Also, it's conservative ideology that divides the world up into two camps, itself and everything outside itself. I love how I'm "one of MP's cronies" now too. |
| Quote: | | His threads aren't "troll baiting" just because they cause you butthurtness. Maybe conservatives aren't the primary intended audience of his threads? Did you ever think of that? |
MP’s threads are trolling or flaming by definition. I wouldn’t be so quick to accuse anyone else of “butthurtness” if I were you. It doesn’t take much reading of your posts on this forum to see you’re about on par with an angry tired baby with a soaking wet diaper; the same piss-wet hateful rhetoric over and over.
| Quote: | | Trolling is when you have no arguments other than "neener neener" and school-yard taunts directed at individual members. |
School yard taunts seem to be an obsession with you. In addition to this here’s another one of several:
Dox47 wrote:
| Quote: | | U mad, Marshall? Are you trying to hurt my feelings or something? |
Marshall
| Quote: | | Is this a schoolyard taunt? |
Remember this? It was right before you threatened to leave this forum because it was too rough for you. Now who has “butthurt” issues? 
This repeated school yard taunt thing really enhances my (and probably everyone else’s) image of you…
| Quote: | | Also, it's conservative ideology that divides the world up into two camps, itself and everything outside itself. |
Yes, of course. And liberals are so open minded.
| Quote: | | I love how I'm "one of MP's cronies" now too. |
Birds of a feather flock together. No, actually you remind me more of that person who’s initials are WD. The one that insists that all conservatives do is make people want to kill themselves….
Keep it up, though. I always have more room for things to laugh at......... |
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The mods and anyone with a shred of reason seem to disagree with you about Master_Pedant's threads. If anything you actually tend to troll them
I also find that statement in one of your posts in this thread that you could have provoked Russians into starting the fight to make you look like the victims pretty low and nefarious. You might have fit in better in the USSR than in the West with that kind of thinking. I also think your knowledge of WW2 history could use some work if you intend to make assertions
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Please be aware that we take accusations of trolling very seriously here. Unless you really mean it (in that case, report it to one of us mods) then don't throw it around. It amounts to deliberately provoking conflict with other members, which is in violation of the rules of conduct.
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I'd also like to remind everyone on this thread to refrain from any further personal attacks.
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| Vigilans wrote: | | The mods and anyone with a shred of reason seem to disagree with you about Master_Pedant's threads. If anything you actually tend to troll them |
If your definition of trolling is having an opposing opinion then I'm guilty as charged for whatever that’s worth.
Trolling or flaming is making statements or starting threads with the intent of drawing heated arguments.
Your boy MP does this ALL the time but since he’s one of yours you’ll choose not to see that.
| Quote: | | I also find that statement in one of your posts in this thread that you could have provoked Russians into starting the fight to make you look like the victims pretty low and nefarious. You might have fit in better in the USSR than in the West with that kind of thinking. I also think your knowledge of WW2 history could use some work if you intend to make assertions |
It's war we're talking about, not a baseball game.
My knowledge of WW2 isn’t what it was or could be but it’s close enough for an argument with someone that’s going to call BS on me, anyway.
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| Raptor wrote: | If your definition of trolling is having an opposing opinion then I'm guilty as charged for whatever that’s worth.
Trolling or flaming is making statements or starting threads with the intent of drawing heated arguments.
Your boy MP does this ALL the time but since he’s one of yours you’ll choose not to see that. |
No, the behavior I speak of is exactly what you're demonstrating here. You joined this thread with the sole intention of insulting Master_Pedant. Which is the only input you *ever* have on his threads.
Almost all the threads on PPR draw heated arguments. Your picking on "my boy" M_P is ironic when there are threads much more controversial you leave be. Your entire purpose is blatantly personal here, and in basically every thread of M_P's you "contribute" to. I even recall you writing "Oh it comes from M_P so its BS" or something along those lines then ducking out of a thread. Trying to act like you actually care about flaming, trolling, or terms of use is hilarious, we both know you don't give a sh**. I can respect that, but I can't respect a hypocrite.
| Raptor wrote: | It's war we're talking about, not a baseball game.
My knowledge of WW2 isn’t what it was or could be but it’s close enough for an argument with someone that’s going to call BS on me, anyway.
So now I’m a communist? I guess being in the NKVD could be fun for someone like me. |
You're talking about getting a war started through false pretenses. Not that America doesn't know anything about that, but the conduct you describe fits the "evil empire" persona extremely well. I didn't say you were a Communist, I said your type of thinking would fit in better in that tyrannical state than it would in your own. People who know their cause is just do not need to create false flag attacks, Raptor.
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marshall
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raptor...
I think it was Dox47 who pointed out that digging up half-year old quotes is a sign of creepy obsessiveness and/or a clinical case of butthurtness.
I think you're just lonely now that you don't have Inuyasha around to back you up. I mean, at least he put actual effort into his posts. |
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enough - puddingmouse already reminded you to leave the troll accusations at the door. please stay on topic and stop throwing crap at each other.
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