fleurdelily Deinonychus


Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Age: 46 Posts: 362
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: Autism or Asperger's... it might depend on your doctor |
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link to an article, that isn't so much news or current events, but rather it sums up what has often been stated on this general autism forum... that a diagnosis really depends on which doctor you see, and what their opinions are ... reuters health - information about diagnosis _________________ *since I get asked fairly often, the avatar is a Claude Monet, it's lovely, isn't it? .... 127% Aloof, 99% Rigid, 86% Pragmatic, I am above the cutoff on all three scales. AQ 38 |
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Atomsk Bass Fiend


Joined: Apr 10, 2008 Age: 24 Posts: 1539
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I encountered this myself when I was being diagnosed as a child. One place said I had Aspergers, the other said HFA. |
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Callista Phoenix


Joined: Feb 04, 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 9818 Location: Central USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's pretty much the only difference--how the doctor sees it. No intrinsic difference.
I've been diagnosed all over the spectrum too. Nowadays I just say PDD-NOS and leave it at that. _________________ Engineering & Psychology student. Gamer. Christian. Asexual. Information Addict. Deal with it!
Reports from a Resident Alien:
http://chaoticidealism.livejournal.com |
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Eloa Phoenix


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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I have got diagnosed autism, HFA, Aspergers.
My psychologist, who is specialized in autism says "autism", because she looks on what people on the spectrum share rather than if you could talk before age two or not. I have a cousin who started talking age 4 and he is not autistic at all. He just started talking later than he was supposed to. Now he is a "perfectly "normal"" person, he just had one developmental delay. _________________ English is not my native language, so I will very likely do mistakes in writing or understanding. My edits are due to corrections of mistakes, which I sometimes recognize just after submitting a text. |
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Sweetleaf Metalhead


Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14828 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Aspergers is Autism... _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream. |
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questor Hermit


Joined: Apr 24, 2011 Posts: 1983 Location: Twilight Zone
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:43 am Post subject: Autism/Asperger's |
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I agree with SweetLeaf. According to what I have researched Asperger's Syndrome is part of the Autism spectrum. People with Asperger's are usually at the high end of the spectrum. "Classic" autism covers a lower part of the spectrum. I first heard about classic autism in the 1970s or 1980s. I found it interesting as a disorder, but did not see myself in it. Less than 10 years ago, I came across info about Asperger's, and it was like fire works going off in my mind. I saw myself in the very first article I came across. I continued to read anything I occasionally came across about Asperger's over the next several years. Every article was like a mirror of my situation, so I finally started doing deliberate research into Asperger's, and eventually took an online test. I tested positive for Asperger's--no surprise. I eventually found WP and lurked here for over a year, before joining. This site has been very helpful to me.
As for questions about the difference between the different autism conditions, they are different enough for me to not see myself in classic autism,and other versions than Asperger's but there are similarities that make it clear that they are all related. I think the spectrum mode of describing the different manifestations these disorders take is a good way of describing them because it covers all of them while allowing room for each to be separately accounted for.
I also don't see any reason to quarrel over it. |
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Mithos Phoenix


Joined: Feb 22, 2012 Age: 22 Posts: 685 Location: Ponyville, Equestria.
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Interesting topic Young Skywalker. I'm enjoying the read. _________________ {{Certified Coffeeholic.}}
I have Severe ADHD (Diagnosed), Tics and Mild OCD. [Fully Alert, Test Retaken.]
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Your Aspie score: 128 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 72 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie |
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Alexender Dodo bird


Joined: Jan 03, 2012 Age: 20 Posts: 1194 Location: wrongplanet
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Tony attwood (reading his book on aspergers) says that hfa and aspergers are probably the same thing. and if someone would be HFA then they should be diagnosed as aspergers. It is all just semantics |
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pensieve President of Gallifrey


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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People can go from severe autism to high functioning after many years of therapy and what have you.
They still show some signs of physical rigidity and maybe emotional immaturity which is very different for those who grew up with HFA/AS.
Which further confuses it.
Doctors. Yes, doctors. They're the ones to blame. _________________ My autism blog - http://latedx.wordpress.com
My completely random though usually about Doctor Who blog - http://alonsy.tumblr.com/ |
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Sweetleaf Metalhead


Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14828 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Alexender wrote: | | Tony attwood (reading his book on aspergers) says that hfa and aspergers are probably the same thing. and if someone would be HFA then they should be diagnosed as aspergers. It is all just semantics |
What exactly defines HFA? and what exactly defines LFA....Also, maybe MFA(Medium functioning Autism) should be added to this. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream. |
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Alexender Dodo bird


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Alexender wrote: | | Tony attwood (reading his book on aspergers) says that hfa and aspergers are probably the same thing. and if someone would be HFA then they should be diagnosed as aspergers. It is all just semantics |
What exactly defines HFA? and what exactly defines LFA....Also, maybe MFA(Medium functioning Autism) should be added to this. |
from my understanding hfa would be defined as aspergers |
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Sweetleaf Metalhead


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Alexender wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Alexender wrote: | | Tony attwood (reading his book on aspergers) says that hfa and aspergers are probably the same thing. and if someone would be HFA then they should be diagnosed as aspergers. It is all just semantics |
What exactly defines HFA? and what exactly defines LFA....Also, maybe MFA(Medium functioning Autism) should be added to this. |
from my understanding hfa would be defined as aspergers |
I more meant what the main difference is, I already knew HFA and Aspergers are the same thing. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream. |
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Alexender Dodo bird


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
That's not what I asked I asked how they are defined...aspergers is another way to say HFA, not the definition. |
well if aspergers is synomous with HFA then the definition would be the definition of aspergers. There is no real definition of HFA |
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Tuttle Not a bird, a turtle.


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: |
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So, I think people here have missed what this is saying.
It's not saying Asperger's isn't a form of autism. It's saying that whether someone is diagnosed with "Asperger's Syndrome" or "Autistic Disorder" (i.e. classic autism), depends on the doctor they were diagnosed by in many cases. |
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Sweetleaf Metalhead


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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Alexender wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: |
That's not what I asked I asked how they are defined...aspergers is another way to say HFA, not the definition. |
well if aspergers is synomous with HFA then the definition would be the definition of aspergers. There is no real definition of HFA |
That does not tell me what the difference is....i guess that is why I like the spectrum idea better to me it seems less vague. I mean HFA kind of implies people with it are highly functional, yet I find that more or less debatable. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream. |
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