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How does saying I cannot function normally and have been trying to ever since I was a child up until the past couple years where I have been trying to focus more on things I can do rather then all the things that I've tried to overcome only to end up beating myself up because I can't no matter how hard I push myself to....indicate not doing something because I don't like it? What I am saying is if I feel like I am being mistreated by the employees or that its more detrimental than helpful then I should have every right to refuse their services. That is all I was saying not 'oh I don't like that so I won't try.' please try to understand that is not how I feel about this in any way....I am trying to figure out how to live my life with the difficulties I have and I am doing the best I can. I am not trying to be difficult or stubbron, hence the reason I said I would look into it and see if its something that would help.
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Well maybe I just don't like the idea of this vocational rehab,
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Trying and refusing is different than not trying. Saying it won't work, saying its not worth the effort to try to get a job, saying those, will get you denied. Saying that you don't want to try to use what is available rather than going directly to SSI make it far less likely that you'll get approved, even if there are reasons that you are not comfortable trying.
| Sweetleaf wrote: | | What would that require? does that mean I cannot explain to them I do not think they are helping me and that do not wish to receive their services anymore. I am sorry it it seems like I'm over-reacting about this specific point but I am very paranoid and uncomfortable about giving other people control over my life....because in my experience I've mostly been damaged by people in such positions and as an adult I really don't want to put up with more of that and regress. So it really is a major concern for me....going to such an establishment for help and than finding I don't have the right to decline their services should I find them unhelpful scares the hell out of me....... |
Oh, you have the right to decline their services, once you start meeting with someone who don't even have to go through the formal application here. It's just that if you feel you're being mistreated you have to contact the correct people with your complaints rather than just stopping showing up. I know I personally would have a difficult time of that and thus need to know that at the beginning.
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Still worth checking out but I have some concerned I certainly need to address before agreeing to something like that. Also if the vocational rehab would be required for disability, I would certainly be ok with not being approved for disability on account of that if my experience proved to be unpleasant. |
It's not that its required, it just shows more of your difficulties and more effort if you've gone through those processes. And it also helps with trying to find a job (and at least the people I've been working with know enough to not throw me into something I can't do, they don't even think I should be doing more than 20 hours of work a week for a least a long time, even if we can find me a job). |
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How does saying I cannot function normally and have been trying to ever since I was a child up until the past couple years where I have been trying to focus more on things I can do rather then all the things that I've tried to overcome only to end up beating myself up because I can't no matter how hard I push myself to....indicate not doing something because I don't like it? What I am saying is if I feel like I am being mistreated by the employees or that its more detrimental than helpful then I should have every right to refuse their services. That is all I was saying not 'oh I don't like that so I won't try.' please try to understand that is not how I feel about this in any way....I am trying to figure out how to live my life with the difficulties I have and I am doing the best I can. I am not trying to be difficult or stubbron, hence the reason I said I would look into it and see if its something that would help.
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Well maybe I just don't like the idea of this vocational rehab,
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Trying and refusing is different than not trying. Saying it won't work, saying its not worth the effort to try to get a job, saying those, will get you denied. Saying that you don't want to try to use what is available rather than going directly to SSI make it far less likely that you'll get approved, even if there are reasons that you are not comfortable trying.
Oh that wording is pretty bad...I was more trying to say it could be an idea to try, but was not sure I am comfortable with it based on what I've heard, but I can see how you took it that way. hopefully this clears it up because I am trying to be open to advice its just all so overwhelming and frustrating its hard to keep a totally cool head about it. Also my main point was...just if I don't find them helpful I'd want to be free to decline their services and either look for work myself or maybe find a different resources.
| Sweetleaf wrote: | | What would that require? does that mean I cannot explain to them I do not think they are helping me and that do not wish to receive their services anymore. I am sorry it it seems like I'm over-reacting about this specific point but I am very paranoid and uncomfortable about giving other people control over my life....because in my experience I've mostly been damaged by people in such positions and as an adult I really don't want to put up with more of that and regress. So it really is a major concern for me....going to such an establishment for help and than finding I don't have the right to decline their services should I find them unhelpful scares the hell out of me....... |
Oh, you have the right to decline their services, once you start meeting with someone who don't even have to go through the formal application here. It's just that if you feel you're being mistreated you have to contact the correct people with your complaints rather than just stopping showing up. I know I personally would have a difficult time of that and thus need to know that at the beginning.
Would I have to keep showing up while the complaint is being reviewed, and if for whatever reason they decided it was not valid would I be obligated to continue? I just don't want to walk into a situation like the following: 'No you have to keep accepting our services no matter how detrimental you think it is.' I guess its a bit silly how paranoid I am about this sort of thing.
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Still worth checking out but I have some concerned I certainly need to address before agreeing to something like that. Also if the vocational rehab would be required for disability, I would certainly be ok with not being approved for disability on account of that if my experience proved to be unpleasant. |
It's not that its required, it just shows more of your difficulties and more effort if you've gone through those processes. And it also helps with trying to find a job (and at least the people I've been working with know enough to not throw me into something I can't do, they don't even think I should be doing more than 20 hours of work a week for a least a long time, even if we can find me a job). |
Alright...I guess the only other concern I have specifically about that is...I mean just based on this misunderstanding of wording what I was trying to express wrong and thus giving off the impression I was having a 'Nope' I'm not even going to try' attitude. Is that i might un-intentionally piss them off and something that upsets me further might be said which would be a pretty bad situation. But maybe I am better at face to face communication and they would be able to see I am not coming in with that sort of persona and will understand I am geniunly frustrated and stressed out about my situation but still trying to make the best of it and do what I can to get some income to live on.
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I thought that is where I originally had it and it was moved to general discussion, did I start it in the general discussion forum? lol I don't care it probably is better here any way but I could have sworn I put it here.
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Not being able to perform single and multi step tasks.
Not being able to work without special accommodations.
Not being able to adapt to the usual stresses of a workplace.
Not being able to recognize and react to normal hazards in the work place.
Difficulty dealing with the public, supervisors, and co-workers in an appropriate manner.
You need to approach your application with these things in mind for every step of the process. AS and ADHD won't get you approved, the above will however. So don't apply based on your DX, apply based on what problems you experience. If you can demonstrate the above sufficiently one of the final steps of the process is an evaluation with a state hired psychologist in which you will probably get the diagnosis you were seeking at no charge to you. The most important thing is don't try to be on your best behavior, present yourself as you normally are. |
Mmm...I'm sure this is true to some extent but there are also specific guidelines within each set of disorders the SS considers, for example different criteria people with personality disorders have to meet, versus the criteria for autistic disorders, and ADHD is a whole different ballgame.
I was told by 3 lawyers that they wouldn't take my case because ADHD is too hard to win benefits for, they didn't ask me about my functioning level at all. I think most lawyers would hear "Asperger's" and assume something very different about the functioning level.
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Not being able to perform single and multi step tasks.
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Not being able to work without special accommodations.
check, Though I would more describe it as not being able to work in certain circumstances...so its a bit more complex.
Not being able to adapt to the usual stresses of a workplace.
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Not being able to recognize and react to normal hazards in the work place.
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Difficulty dealing with the public, supervisors, and co-workers in an appropriate manner.
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You need to approach your application with these things in mind for every step of the process. AS and ADHD won't get you approved, the above will however. So don't apply based on your DX, apply based on what problems you experience. If you can demonstrate the above sufficiently one of the final steps of the process is an evaluation with a state hired psychologist in which you will probably get the diagnosis you were seeking at no charge to you. The most important thing is don't try to be on your best behavior, present yourself as you normally are. |
But thank you for clarifying that, last time I applied I was not quite sure what difficulties they wanted me to describe so based on my description it might not have been what they were looking for. That could probably help when I apply again with better describing my work difficulties.
I could not apply based on my DX because I don't have an official diagnoses for them, just a note from a therapist I was going to that says he thinks based on his knowledge I have Aspergers, Clinical-Depression, PTSD, and Generalized Anxiety. But yeah that was helpful.
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@ Tuttle,
Thanks for outlining what I need to realize.... I guess it makes no never mind that I already realized that..... About 8? years ago?..... I did ask Sweetleaf what state she lived in and hadn't answered, nor did I see it anywhere else in the thread though its entirely possible I missed it, but she has since, so I can tailor my answers to her more appropriately now.
@Sweetleaf:
I think part of the misunderstanding(s) that are going on here Sweetleaf is that, at least for myself, when you talk about yourself and your problems, you sound very unsure, and you don't tell us specifically what you have an haven't done. I can understand that, but as I don't know you very well Im not used to you doing it ^^;. Its entirely understandable that you do it, but when one doesn't know its going on, we can only take you at your word, and your word is whatever you tell us or not ^^;. I apologize if Ive made this anymore stressful then it already was as a result of my ignorance.
Getting on to the problem at hand:
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542626
Im guessing this is the site and page that said your mother makes too much? I would ask more about it, like how much does your mother make, but I understand if you don't want to answer that here.
After that, all we can try and do is *maybe* give some outside advice over what you might be able to do to change your situation favorably. But to do that we need to know more about it.
For instance, one possibility would be to go out on your own and just do your best. This is one extreme end of the spectrum of Possibilities, the other extreme being to try to stick it out with your mother..... There are probably a whole range of other possibilities between those two, but without more information, we can't even begin to speculate what those might be. A Middling option would be to find a Part time Job while you research Colorado's Assistance Programs, and as soon as you can find a path to Food assistance, possibly housing assistance, or Health assistance, get your own place where you will definitely be making Too little to be disqualified for these programs.....
Tuttle, in their most recent post, was trying to make the same point (I beleive) that I was. By going out and trying, you're demonstrating to everyone, the SSI office most notably, that you are trying, and if you end up failing for whatever reason, at least there will be a paper trail to demonstrate that you've been trying. This will get you alot farther then being worried about whether you think you'll like it or not and not trying for that reason. You can always stop doing something after start, but if you don't start you'll never know exactly what'll be like, and you wont be able to demonstrate to people that you're really not capable of doing it.....
Finally, Id suggest looking at this site:
https://peak.state.co.us/selfservice/selfserviceController?id=0.28982065131424817&tab=9025
Thats CDHS (Colorado Dept of Human Services) Overall Benefits page. The one I have linked is the little blurb about eligibilty, but the main page can be found here:
https://peak.state.co.us/selfservice/
My Suggestion with PEAK, would be to phone them up or go to whatever office is closest to you. Ask them about what they have available, and if anything they have can be used in your situation. You might have to go to an office and speak with a case worker or an advocate to get this information with any kind of accuracy. IDK how much your mother makes, but if your mother is trying to get you out of the house, there will be assistance available if you have nothing else. Things probably won't be easy, but the help will be there.
Good Luck,
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Btw, the state might be able to waive the "Household" requirement depending on your situation. If you live at your mothers 24/7, then most certianly they won't. If you only sleep there and are gone the entire time you're there, they might. But if you only "live" there a few days a week say, some states can waive the "Household Income" requirement as long as you can prove you yourself are making less. You wont know until you research it, or probably more easily, just ask someone that works there. Some states can do things like this, others won't.
Oh, and a P.O. Box won't work either, every State Assistance program Ive ever looked at states explicitly that P.O. Box's and other Non-Residence Address' won't work for their programs (Mind, I haven't looked at all 50 states, but I would be very surprised to find one that was ok with it). |
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I thought that is where I originally had it and it was moved to general discussion, did I start it in the general discussion forum? lol I don't care it probably is better here any way but I could have sworn I put it here. |
It started in General, as far as I'm aware. If a mod moved it, they probably would've left a message - but I could be wrong.
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Thanks for outlining what I need to realize.... I guess it makes no never mind that I already realized that..... About 8? years ago?..... I did ask Sweetleaf what state she lived in and hadn't answered, nor did I see it anywhere else in the thread though its entirely possible I missed it, but she has since, so I can tailor my answers to her more appropriately now.
@Sweetleaf:
I think part of the misunderstanding(s) that are going on here Sweetleaf is that, at least for myself, when you talk about yourself and your problems, you sound very unsure, and you don't tell us specifically what you have an haven't done. I can understand that, but as I don't know you very well Im not used to you doing it ^^;. Its entirely understandable that you do it, but when one doesn't know its going on, we can only take you at your word, and your word is whatever you tell us or not ^^;. I apologize if Ive made this anymore stressful then it already was as a result of my ignorance.
Getting on to the problem at hand:
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542626
Im guessing this is the site and page that said your mother makes too much? I would ask more about it, like how much does your mother make, but I understand if you don't want to answer that here.
Fair enough. And yes I believe so I will look at it as soon as I get done typing though. And if I recall her income is 20,000 a year that is what was on her tax thing or whatever that I had to look at to feel out my FAFSA stuff for college...it has not changed since that.
After that, all we can try and do is *maybe* give some outside advice over what you might be able to do to change your situation favorably. But to do that we need to know more about it.
For instance, one possibility would be to go out on your own and just do your best. This is one extreme end of the spectrum of Possibilities, the other extreme being to try to stick it out with your mother..... There are probably a whole range of other possibilities between those two, but without more information, we can't even begin to speculate what those might be. A Middling option would be to find a Part time Job while you research Colorado's Assistance Programs, and as soon as you can find a path to Food assistance, possibly housing assistance, or Health assistance, get your own place where you will definitely be making Too little to be disqualified for these programs.....
Well I certainly don't want to live like a child dependent on my mother, don't think she would allow it and I'd probably go totally homeless first but as I've said she provides me a room to sleep in. So No real help or assistance with anything else she can't afford to do that anyways since she still has my two brothers who are 17 and 10 not to mention I think the bill at the new house is higher. Also she I don't think sees much reason to actually help me financially. So I think I will look for part time work and work on applying for disability.
Tuttle, in their most recent post, was trying to make the same point (I beleive) that I was. By going out and trying, you're demonstrating to everyone, the SSI office most notably, that you are trying, and if you end up failing for whatever reason, at least there will be a paper trail to demonstrate that you've been trying. This will get you alot farther then being worried about whether you think you'll like it or not and not trying for that reason. You can always stop doing something after start, but if you don't start you'll never know exactly what'll be like, and you wont be able to demonstrate to people that you're really not capable of doing it.....
That makes sense and I have no problem applying for jobs or asking for applications, that is obviously my major concern...but I feel like my feelings and the kind of life I want should also be viewed as important. Sometimes I guess I feel kind of like people expect me to just endure even more continuous unpleasantness when I would prefer to do my best not to settle for something like that. But maybe I am just a bit defensive about that.
But yeah I was just under the impression if you went out and looked for work that made it look like you could function just fine and don't need any financial help from disability. I had no idea that is actually what they like to see, in fact knowing that makes me feel a lot better about the whole thing....the last thing I wanted to do was sit around for a couple years doing nothing for fear of not being approved for disability if they catch me trying to find work. So thanks for clearing that up.
Finally, Id suggest looking at this site:
https://peak.state.co.us/selfservice/selfserviceController?id=0.28982065131424817&tab=9025
Thats CDHS (Colorado Dept of Human Services) Overall Benefits page. The one I have linked is the little blurb about eligibilty, but the main page can be found here:
https://peak.state.co.us/selfservice/
My Suggestion with PEAK, would be to phone them up or go to whatever office is closest to you. Ask them about what they have available, and if anything they have can be used in your situation. You might have to go to an office and speak with a case worker or an advocate to get this information with any kind of accuracy. IDK how much your mother makes, but if your mother is trying to get you out of the house, there will be assistance available if you have nothing else. Things probably won't be easy, but the help will be there.
Good Luck,
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Alright I will look that up...and just have to point out my moms income is truly irrelevant to me and only prevents me from getting help, it was even part of why I had to take out more loans than I should have for college rather then getting more financial aid.....because she does not in any way shape or form give me any money of any sort, because either she does not have it or I should just spend the pathetic amount I have left on a therapist or some other ridiculous idea. I mean she's not the worst mom but she just really is not helpful for any of this so unfortunately she is not really any one I can turn to.
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I thought that is where I originally had it and it was moved to general discussion, did I start it in the general discussion forum? lol I don't care it probably is better here any way but I could have sworn I put it here. |
It started in General, as far as I'm aware. If a mod moved it, they probably would've left a message - but I could be wrong. |
alright, well its not matter it just confused me for a second.
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I will add that, like FAFSA, $20,000/yr doesn't preclude you from benefits for most things in most places...... 20K a year isn't exactly tippin the scales towards the high roller side of things in this day and age..... Again, this will get into the State By State issue, but as far as food stamps are concerned, call up CDHS at least and ask them questions. You're going to have go digging for the information probably, it wont be just sitting there waiting for you to come get it. CDHS isn't like a business tailored to attract you, its a government run subsidy designed to keep people who dont need it away from the hassle of dealing with it.
Further, 20K/yr divided by 12 =~$1650..... Was the 20K net or gross (IE before or after taxes?). How many people live in your house?
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542626
You mentioned you, 2 brothers and your mother?
4 $2422 4 $1863
thats line 4 off the above Web page. 4 is the number of people living in your household, $2422 is the Gross allowable monthly income, 1863 is the Net allowable Monthly income...... So how are you not eligible for SNAP?
I've done this bit for you, but it'll be up to you to pursue it. I have no idea how CDHS would partition benefits for you or your family under the same roof..... All I can do here is Reiterate, CALL THEM, TALK TO THEM. They are the ones that will be able to help you sort out what you are eligible for or not, and how you might be able to manage them both with your family or without....... I would honestly encourage you to do it later today (This posting as of Tuesday 2/28/12 1:36AM PST). Be ready to be honest with them, be ready to step outside of your comfort zone, I doubt you'll find these experiences enjoyable, but they are necessary to attain the assistance it sounds like you need....
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| Aldran wrote: | I will add that, like FAFSA, $20,000/yr doesn't preclude you from benefits for most things in most places...... 20K a year isn't exactly tippin the scales towards the high roller side of things in this day and age..... Again, this will get into the State By State issue, but as far as food stamps are concerned, call up CDHS at least and ask them questions. You're going to have go digging for the information probably, it wont be just sitting there waiting for you to come get it. CDHS isn't like a business tailored to attract you, its a government run subsidy designed to keep people who dont need it away from the hassle of dealing with it.
Alright, and I did get some financial aid from FAFSA, but still had to take out more loans than I should have.
Further, 20K/yr divided by 12 =~$1650..... Was the 20K net or gross (IE before or after taxes?). How many people live in your house?
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542626
4 me, my mom, her boyfriend and my 10 year old brother.....and my 17 year old brother but he mostly stays at his girlfriends house.
You mentioned you, 2 brothers and your mother?
4 $2422 4 $1863
thats line 4 off the above Web page. 4 is the number of people living in your household, $2422 is the Gross allowable monthly income, 1863 is the Net allowable Monthly income...... So how are you not eligible for SNAP?
I will have to look into it....again, but that is what it seemed to be saying.
I've done this bit for you, but it'll be up to you to pursue it. I have no idea how CDHS would partition benefits for you or your family under the same roof..... All I can do here is Reiterate, CALL THEM, TALK TO THEM. They are the ones that will be able to help you sort out what you are eligible for or not, and how you might be able to manage them both with your family or without....... I would honestly encourage you to do it later today (This posting as of Tuesday 2/28/12 1:36AM PST). Be ready to be honest with them, be ready to step outside of your comfort zone, I doubt you'll find these experiences enjoyable, but they are necessary to attain the assistance it sounds like you need....
Good Luck,
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alright, or maybe I should just see if it says where I go to apply and just scedule an appointment because I am terrible at expressing things over the phone. And the trouble is my mom, her boyfriend and my 10 year old brother don't need foodstamps I am the only one who does. Based on that link they go by household income not individual but I'll look at the other links and info in threads...but yeah I guess maybe talking to them would be less confusing than the site.
Also my moms boyfriend I don't know if he is officially part of the household, uhh I don't know I will look at this more in the morning because its kind of depressing me now.
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FAFSA has its own rules about eligibility and Coverage. But a big part of those rules for coverage has to do with weighing need against an expected outside resource. The government expects parents to help pay for tuition (This system atm is really quite broken and needs revamping), so FAFSA determines how much tuition coverage it will give by including the parental Income in its calculations. The idea bein that an uber wealthy family should be able to pay for their own children's entire tuition, and a poor one can't, but a Middle income family might be able to cover a % based portion though probably not all of it..... Its the same with several other Assistance Programs (Again, state by state basis applies here). If the government has decided that, based on your income you should be able to reasonably expect to cover some of your food costs, they wont give you as much assistance because they're not in the business of free Charity. They're in the business of fulfilling needs where there is otherwise a deficit.
SNAP = Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program. Its what they call the program formerly known as "Food Stamps". SInce they ditched the stamps, someone finally got smart and decided to change the name.
I gave you the site:
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542815 (This the Food Eligibility Page for CDHS)
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251578820495 (This is the main site)
https://peak.state.co.us/ (This is the site where you can apply online, but I highly advise calling, or better yet going into an office, first).
I suggest going into the office first because since SNAP is dictated by household, you'll need to find out what the state can do for your situation..... Can they give JUST you Food assistance? Does it have to be your entire household? Is your mother and her boyfriend going to get access to YOUR EBT account (Dont ask me what EBT means, I can't remember, basically its the system that allocates money for you to use every month)? What happens when you move out?
Getting to a person that can help you with these questions and asking them is called self-advocating..... You seem like you have had very little experience looking after yourself on your own, or at least you seem like you have very low confidence about doing it ^^;. I hate to say this to ya, but you're gonna have to do this on your own, and think about your situation with you first if you want to come out of this with as little problems as possible...... The good news is is that there are people out there willing to help you, all you gotta do is go looking for them. It might seem insurmountable, but you can honestly do it ^^;.
Good Luck,
Aldran |
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Sweetleaf
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| Aldran wrote: | FAFSA has its own rules about eligibility and Coverage. But a big part of those rules for coverage has to do with weighing need against an expected outside resource. The government expects parents to help pay for tuition (This system atm is really quite broken and needs revamping), so FAFSA determines how much tuition coverage it will give by including the parental Income in its calculations. The idea bein that an uber wealthy family should be able to pay for their own children's entire tuition, and a poor one can't, but a Middle income family might be able to cover a % based portion though probably not all of it..... Its the same with several other Assistance Programs (Again, state by state basis applies here). If the government has decided that, based on your income you should be able to reasonably expect to cover some of your food costs, they wont give you as much assistance because they're not in the business of free Charity. They're in the business of fulfilling needs where there is otherwise a deficit.
It would have been nice if my mom helped pay for some of my tuition, but not such luck. Also my income is nothing currently, I need a job of some sort for income.
SNAP = Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program. Its what they call the program formerly known as "Food Stamps". SInce they ditched the stamps, someone finally got smart and decided to change the name.
I gave you the site:
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251586542815 (This the Food Eligibility Page for CDHS)
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDHS-SelfSuff/CBON/1251578820495 (This is the main site)
https://peak.state.co.us/ (This is the site where you can apply online, but I highly advise calling, or better yet going into an office, first).
I suggest going into the office first because since SNAP is dictated by household, you'll need to find out what the state can do for your situation..... Can they give JUST you Food assistance? Does it have to be your entire household? Is your mother and her boyfriend going to get access to YOUR EBT account (Dont ask me what EBT means, I can't remember, basically its the system that allocates money for you to use every month)? What happens when you move out?
Getting to a person that can help you with these questions and asking them is called self-advocating..... You seem like you have had very little experience looking after yourself on your own, or at least you seem like you have very low confidence about doing it ^^;. I hate to say this to ya, but you're gonna have to do this on your own, and think about your situation with you first if you want to come out of this with as little problems as possible...... The good news is is that there are people out there willing to help you, all you gotta do is go looking for them. It might seem insurmountable, but you can honestly do it ^^;.
Good Luck,
Aldran |
Yeah the peak site is down right now so I have to wait till later, but the household thing concerns me because for one I don't know if I am supposed to report my moms boyfriend as a member of the household or not but I guess calling/going to the office would help. Also that is true I have very low confidence and have no idea if I can actually figure any of this out but I will try going into the office and explain my situation....I just don't want to say my moms boyfriend is a contributing household member and go back on it if I find out that is not what they reported I don't want to get them or myself in trouble over that....
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Looneytunes
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | SylviaLynn wrote: | | See if your state has behavioral health services of any kind. My state does. If so, a case manager might be helpful. I don't know if I could have done without the knowledge and help of my case manager. I did manage to get on disability, but it did take a couple of years and an attorney. In the meantime, you might check on HUD subsidized housing. That's 30% of your income, whatever that income may be. |
I don't really have a couple years I don't think.......500 dollars is not exactly enough to live on for two years. So I really hope it does not take that long. And what exactly is behavioral health services? not sure if its what I'd be looking for but if thats just the same as mental health services then yes that would be a start maybe. |
One thing to beware of - state run mental health services is not a secure method of treatment.
Because they are paid by the state - anyone working within their boundaries can at any time access your files and information.
In order to get SSI - you have to have two things wrong with you, you have to be over 50 years old.
Mental illness is only one strike.
If you go to a hospital and act crazy and get committed and have a medical issue - you could probably get SSI.
Your best bet is to take care of yourself.
GET OUT of the house and OFF the COMPUTER, and go to the McDonalds or Burger King and apply for a JOB!
There - you will have a income and a source of food - every day you work, they will feed you.
That will solve two of your biggest problems!
It will also give you a reference - for applying in the future for a better job. |
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