ScottyN
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| Yes, I too have had these kinds of meltdowns and sleep issues, Exercise helps, but I wish there was a better solution, some kind of miracle relaxation technique or drug. |
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AspieOtaku
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Joined: Feb 18, 2012
Age: 30
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Location: Mountain View, California, United States
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Usually a couple drinks does the trick for me along with laying on a soft couch and listening to some music, watch some tv and taking a long nap. I usually feel better afterwards. If i do not do those techniques it gets very difficult to recover and i get a lingering headache filled with guilt and depression. |
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Cash__
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Location: Missouri, USA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| eigerpere wrote: | | CyclopsSummers wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
Semantics. Destroying property, hurting others, hurting oneself are all manifestations of a tantrum that's a direct result of a state of mind. A state of mind that may be caused by sensory overload, or a sudden change your mind has difficulty dealing with, et cetera, and may be directly tied to one's autism.
Parents -good parents- don't 'let' their autistic child wreak the damage they do when they have an outburst. Just as much as parents don't 'let' their autistic children isolate themselves and sit in a corner by themselves when all the other children are playing with each other. As a parent, you can tell your child 'What you did was wrong. You shouldn't behave in that way. Your actions have consequences, and in this case the consequences can be nasty.', the child may agree, but when the tensions build again, the rage can override the rational part of the brain.
It's too easy to say that parents whose child gets so angry he or she damages things in their own house, are neglectful in their responsibilities of raising a child. |
When there are consequences to bad behavior there will be less bad behavior over time. Blaming it on a condition doesn't justify anything. It only gives the condition that many suffer with a bad name. |
I'm 43. I own the house. I own the saber saw. I am responsible to nobody, therefore there is nobody who could legally serve me any kind of consequences on said action. Plus the saw got what it deserved.
If I damaged someone elses property. I would expect consequences. Thats a fact of life. |
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eigerpere
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Cash__ wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | CyclopsSummers wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
Semantics. Destroying property, hurting others, hurting oneself are all manifestations of a tantrum that's a direct result of a state of mind. A state of mind that may be caused by sensory overload, or a sudden change your mind has difficulty dealing with, et cetera, and may be directly tied to one's autism.
Parents -good parents- don't 'let' their autistic child wreak the damage they do when they have an outburst. Just as much as parents don't 'let' their autistic children isolate themselves and sit in a corner by themselves when all the other children are playing with each other. As a parent, you can tell your child 'What you did was wrong. You shouldn't behave in that way. Your actions have consequences, and in this case the consequences can be nasty.', the child may agree, but when the tensions build again, the rage can override the rational part of the brain.
It's too easy to say that parents whose child gets so angry he or she damages things in their own house, are neglectful in their responsibilities of raising a child. |
When there are consequences to bad behavior there will be less bad behavior over time. Blaming it on a condition doesn't justify anything. It only gives the condition that many suffer with a bad name. |
I'm 43. I own the house. I own the saber saw. I am responsible to nobody, therefore there is nobody who could legally serve me any kind of consequences on said action. Plus the saw got what it deserved.
If I damaged someone elses property. I would expect consequences. Thats a fact of life. |
That wasn't my point. Obviously you can damage your own property. And your behavior shouldn't be equated to having an ASD. |
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Cash__
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. Meltdowns and ASDs go together. Buy a book and read about it.
I'm not saying its an excuse. Its something I need to work on. I do take full responsibilities for my actions.
We're not all the same. Maybe you don't have the same meltdown problems. here's the difference. I am not sitting here and trivializing the parts of your condition you deal with. |
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eigerpere
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I have meltdowns too and don't need to read about it. I don't think you need to take what I'm saying personally. |
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AnOldHFA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Voilent meltdowns? I just needt o know I'm ont alone. |
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I have always have had very bad meltdowns.
I'm not sure i handle them any better as I age.
When people do disrpectful things to others is the worst thing I can see. If its really bad, I see red and don't remember everything.
The city I live in now is full of disrespectful people. I have meltdowns most days. A bad melt down can affect my for hours after.
Riding my bicycle is the best thing for me, I wish I lived in the Neitherlands..... |
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unduki
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I recently read the phrase, "Behavior is communication" in connection to autism. It made me wonder what I'm trying to communicate when I'm melting down. Maybe I'm trying to run people away so I don't have to deal with them because what they're saying or doing is overwhelming me.
There are times where I feel like a caged animal getting poked with a stick.
Other times, I might melt down because I've hit my limit in dealing with certain environmental stimulation such as loud bass music or bright/flashing lights. I don't think I'm trying to communicate anything then, just reacting to the assault.
For me, the only way to cope with these issues is avoidance.
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SteelMaiden
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I had very violent meltdowns when I was younger, and I still do have them sometimes but it's hard to tell now if it is psychosis or a meltdown because I've had schizophrenia since I was 14; I am not sure if my psychosis sets it off or if my autism sets it off...sorry if that doesn't make sense. Last time I had a severe violent meltdown/rage attack, I ended up being held down and handcuffed by the police.
I am not sure what can stop these things in my situation. Trying to keep calm never works. And I don't want to rely on clonazepam to keep calm but sometimes it seems like the only way to prevent me from "losing it".
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nintendofan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
if your talking about me, and my video, i am suverley autistic, and i somtimes hit objects instead of myself or my head, i posted the video to raise awareness now shut up and stop telling sh** you dont understand about autism! and even if your post isnt directed at me, you realy dont see "the whole picture" of autism!
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eigerpere
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| nintendofan wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
if your talking about me, and my video, i am suverley autistic, and i somtimes hit objects instead of myself or my head, i posted the video to raise awareness now shut up and stop telling sh** you dont understand about autism! |
Get some medication before you hurt yourself or someone else. And shut up yourself. |
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eigerpere
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| nintendofan wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
if your talking about me, and my video, i am suverley autistic, and i somtimes hit objects instead of myself or my head, i posted the video to raise awareness now shut up and stop telling sh** you dont understand about autism! and even if your post isnt directed at me, you realy dont see "the whole picture" of autism! |
You aren't the whole picture of autism. Get a grip dude. |
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nintendofan
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| eigerpere wrote: | | nintendofan wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
if your talking about me, and my video, i am suverley autistic, and i somtimes hit objects instead of myself or my head, i posted the video to raise awareness now shut up and stop telling sh** you dont understand about autism! and even if your post isnt directed at me, you realy dont see "the whole picture" of autism! |
You aren't the whole picture of autism. Get a grip dude. |
alright then, first, you cant medicate suvere autism, and you called me a "dude" so you are also wrong there, and you are also wrong with "you arnt the whole picture of autism" i never said I was! i said you clearly dont understand anything but your own little world! there are many sides of autism, and beating myself and my head and somtimes i do smashing objects like doors, or cuboard walls but that is more acectable than doing that to myself. is a major part of my autism, and my meltdowns, you cleary know alot less about autism than you think you do, you think you know what your talking about just because you dont do it and your autistic.
i think you need to "get a grip" as you say.
im not even going to reply to your pointles coments anymore..
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ChangelingGirl
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| Quote: | | Blaming it on a condition doesn't justify anything. It only gives the condition that many suffer with a bad name. |
While I agree that autism, or any other condition fo rhat matter, should not be an excuse to be desturctive, I do have to say that the context in which the destructiveness occurs, has to be taken account in the way it's handled. For example, n autistic's sneosry needs should be respected. If they aren't, and there is a meltdown, there should still be consequences, but that doesn't mean the child "just" misbehaved.
As a side note, wé'r etalking children here as if meltdowns don't occur in adults. I had violent meltdowns until I was 23 and went on meds. Consequences helped lessen the behavior, but they didn't teach me alternative strategies to deal with sensory differences, and tht made me feel like an utter failure.
As for the bad name thing, f*ck it. I don't care if autism gets a bad name due to my not be a shiny, successful, totally-well-behaved Aspie. The burden of defeating stereotypes should not always be on the peoeple being stereotyped. |
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eigerpere
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| nintendofan wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | nintendofan wrote: | | eigerpere wrote: | | This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism. |
if your talking about me, and my video, i am suverley autistic, and i somtimes hit objects instead of myself or my head, i posted the video to raise awareness now shut up and stop telling sh** you dont understand about autism! and even if your post isnt directed at me, you realy dont see "the whole picture" of autism! |
You aren't the whole picture of autism. Get a grip dude. |
alright then, first, you cant medicate suvere autism, and you called me a "dude" so you are also wrong there, and you are also wrong with "you arnt the whole picture of autism" i never said I was! i said you clearly dont understand anything but your own little world! there are many sides of autism, and beating myself and my head and somtimes i do smashing objects like doors, or cuboard walls but that is more acectable than doing that to myself. is a major part of my autism, and my meltdowns, you cleary know alot less about autism than you think you do, you think you know what your talking about just because you dont do it and your autistic.
i think you need to "get a grip" as you say.
im not even going to reply to your pointles coments anymore.. |
You can medicate your behavior so you don't kill yourself or someone else. I don't like you and don't want to waste my time on you. I have a right to my opinions and so do you and will leave it to that. |
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