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Jacoby
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| Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
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| Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
^ True. |
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Magdalena
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Republicans: the political representation wing of those who have weak minds.
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| Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
I wouldn't say that the Democrats are borderline fascists. But they aren't really all that different from the Republicans. It's the difference between the right and the far right. |
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"Theo-Fascists" ... I like that term. It describes them perfectly.
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Jacoby
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| AstroGeek wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
I wouldn't say that the Democrats are borderline fascists. But they aren't really all that different from the Republicans. It's the difference between the right and the far right. |
They're certainly corporatist, militaristic, and have no respect for our constitution or civil liberties. Perhaps borderline is too kind of a term. |
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And some of the most well-known left-wing activists have lengthy stock portfolios.
Isn't the Republican Party supposed to be about limited government and more personal freedom? I'm a Republican, but a "classic" one at that, before it became almost synonymous with the Religious Right.
And contrary to popular belief, while GWB didn't support same-sex marriage, he *did* support civil unions.
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| Tim_Tex wrote: | And some of the most well-known left-wing activists have lengthy stock portfolios.
Isn't the Republican Party supposed to be about limited government and more personal freedom? I'm a Republican, but a "classic" one at that, before it became almost synonymous with the Religious Right.
And contrary to popular belief, while GWB didn't support same-sex marriage, he *did* support civil unions. |
Oh, you are one of the old Goldwater conservatives? Cool turds. I used to be GOP, back when the GOP stood for limiting the excesses of social bulldozing. We are still burdened and hindered by programs in our school system that were aimed at "equality," and all they did was take the soul and life force out of the education system. It gave a free pass to freeloaders and undercut students who were devout believers in learning. Ah, youth.
Also, I agree with you that the demonization of GWB ultimately lost touch with reality. I blame this partly on the excessive anti-liberal hate-mongering. If I were to ever encounter someone who was surprised at the resulting liberal backlash, I would tell that person in plain English that he or she is an outright moron, an imbecile barely fit to live.
I honestly can't say I really care much about any liberal v. conservative issue other than the fact that it will be a cold day in Hell before I show any toleration for theo-fascism. I don't even like vegans, which seem themselves to be a psychopathic religious cult, compulsive liars bereft of basic morality. Anything that resembles a religion sticking its nose into politics is anathema to me.
What is wrong with the GOP is, essentially, that the GOP has gone to Hell in a hand-car. I recommend learning more about the Democrats in your region. I cannot promise that you will find nothing but pillars of moral perfection and intellectual vitality, but I think it's worth looking into beyond the headlines. I think it's worth looking into at eye-level, on the local scene. It is the local scene where your voice is likely to matter, anyway. |
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| They didn't attempt a coup and accepted the results of the 2008 presidential elections. I don't remember Mussolini, Hitler or Franco stepping down voluntarily. I count that as a clue. |
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| Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
Both parties are Statist. Both parties have inherited the political DNA of the Progressives which emerged at the end of the 19th century and came to fruition under Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt was a Republican (and later a Progressive or Bull Moose) and Wilson was a Democrat. Party did not matter. Both men pushed the Progressive agenda.
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
Both parties are Statist. Both parties have inherited the political DNA of the Progressives which emerged at the end of the 19th century and came to fruition under Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt was a Republican (and later a Progressive or Bull Moose) and Wilson was a Democrat. Party did not matter. Both men pushed the Progressive agenda.
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But it's also true that Wilson's repressive wartime domestic policies had led to the end of the progressive era, the conservative backlash of the twenties, the first red scare,and the reemergence of the Ku Klux Klan - which Wilson gave praise to by promoting the movie Birth Of A Nation.
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| Man is truly a frightening animal. |
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| AstroGeek wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
I wouldn't say that the Democrats are borderline fascists. But they aren't really all that different from the Republicans. It's the difference between the right and the far right. |
^^^This.
Obama is slightly more right than the German right-wing party, which makes the Republican accusations of him being a communist utterly hilarious. As for the Republican party, I don't understand how American conservatives can't see how dangerous they are. We tend to view parties with a similar agenda as radical extremists. I find it frightening that they have such a huge following in the USA. |
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| CrazyCatLord wrote: | | AstroGeek wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | | Republican and Democrats are both for most part borderline fascists. |
I wouldn't say that the Democrats are borderline fascists. But they aren't really all that different from the Republicans. It's the difference between the right and the far right. |
^^^This.
Obama is slightly more right than the German right-wing party, which makes the Republican accusations of him being a communist utterly hilarious. As for the Republican party, I don't understand how American conservatives can't see how dangerous they are. We tend to view parties with a similar agenda as radical extremists. I find it frightening that they have such a huge following in the USA. |
I've been scared shitless of the road the Republican party has been going down now for some time!
In all honesty, though, the notion that the Democrats have been going to the far left while the Republicans have been going to the far right has been overblown. In fact, if anything, as you had observed about Obama, most Democrats in America would be considered conservative by European standards. So no, it's not a matter of both parties going over the edge of sanity - just those on the far right.
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