MusicIsLife2Me
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Hopefully rap! Most of it is pretty terrible IMO except for some of the beats themselves.  |
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MusicIsLife2Me
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| Hopefully rap! Most of it is pretty terrible IMO except for some of the beats themselves. |
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Chevand
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| AnnettaMarie wrote: | Probably anything that isn't on the radio will be pushed out, unless more people start actively searching for better music.
That being said, I also worry that technology will overrun the truly musically talented. |
I understand your concerns about technology, I really do. For years I've complained about the effect of Auto Tune on the music industry, and its implications of an institutional fetish for pitch-perfectness. But Auto Tune aside, there's another side to that coin, and it's where I believe technology actually plays a far greater role. I refer, of course, to the means of music distribution. CDs haven't quite gone the way of dinosaurs and vinyl just yet, but it is happening. iTunes is already a far more powerful engine for media consumption than some well established record stores; just the other day I was in downtown Vancouver, and I noticed that the big HMV on Burrard Street was finally gone after a few months of advertising its closing. That's a problem for record stores, and for people who, like myself, like the experience of going to the record store, communing with fellow music lovers, and digging through the stacks looking for something interesting. However, it also poses a peculiar problem for the recording companies as well. It's been about five years now since Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails simultaneously first experimented with cutting out the record companies as middlemen, and their success in establishing new expectations for the way business gets conducted has ramifications for the diversity of music that gets produced.
The range of music that is available to the broader public has never been as eclectic as it is now. In large part, we have the Internet to thank for that. The record companies and radio stations may still try to push Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black as if nothing about their consumer base has changed-- but the reality is, they don't hold their decades-long monopolies on music anymore. We have alternatives now. YouTube suffices as a pick-your-own-playlist radio, iTunes is a relatively easy way to buy music, and there are even services like Pandora that help people discover new music they might like, based upon their established tastes. If the record companies and radio stations don't begin to pander to the broader tastes of demographics they used to be able to neglect and malign, they stand to lose a significant chunk of their profit margin-- or, more importantly, their existential relevence.
With that in mind-- I don't think rap is going anywhere, or hard rock/heavy metal, or pop. Those three genres seem destined to jostle each other endlessly for mainstream attention. It's hard to foresee what new genres might arise even within the next decade, let alone twenty years. But the rules of thumb seem to be that the stale gets pushed aside, and that the music of twenty to thirty years ago plays a role in influencing the current generation of emerging musicians. For example, the 2000s saw an upswelling in stripped-down garage rock influenced by 70s classic rock, as well as a bit of an 80s New Wave nostalgia movement. Based on that, if I had to guess, I would surmise that the next wave of music, the children of the 90s, will likely be heavily influenced by the Gen X grunge and alternative rock explosion. I don't think it will be quite the same as the watered-down post-grunge stuff that's been about since Cobain died, though. Hopefully, there will be a movement, much like there was when Nevermind and Ten were released, to abandon the artifice of the radio status quo and restore some much needed introspection and honesty to the mainstream. Generation Y is coming into its own as musicians now, and as it is a fairly populous age bracket, they're sure to put a pretty large mark on the music culture as they reach the age where music like Justin Bieber's is no longer palatable.
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| donnie_darko wrote: | | Fnord wrote: | | I think that Enya music will die out in the next 20 years, if it hasn't already. I mean, she's 50 years old, and likely has run out of ideas by now. She also has no children, lives in a castle by herself, and has more money than most people could ever hope to spend. |
You got me feeling really bad for Enya now.  |
Enya's a person? I thought Enya was a band!
And I hope (Although it probably won't happen) that today's pop and rap and all that music that the people in my school think is so great is eventually forgotten. And that rock will come back and be popular again.
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I can only hope rap and hip hop fade away in the next twenty years or so. Maybe pop, as well, but I don't find it quite as irritating as the other two genres.
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They said rap was going to fade out 20 years ago. Back then, for every Vanilla Ice, you had a Tribe Called Quest. Just like these days, for every Lil Wayne, you have a Lupe Fiasco. Rap isn't going to fade because artists both underground and popular are actually putting out good music. What you mostly hear on the radios and see on the TV are the wannabes, and the easy money-making tunes by MCs that've proven themselves like Kanye and Jay-Z. 20 years ago, you had crap from all those dance MCs, 10 years ago you had crap from those wannabe gangsters. Now we have all those corny post-modern autotune electro-rappers. But underneath that surface, rap has a solid foundation. Even if it did die -which it won't- eventually someone would dig it up from undeneath the dust and make a rap revolution.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Which Music Genres Will Die Out within 20 years? |
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| Pondering wrote: | | Anyways I think Juggalo Music will die out within 20 years. The music is not the smartest, it's often shockrap or joke making rap, the musicians who are made in the business are often unhealthy, and consuming a lot of alcohol, and other dangerous drugs, and so are their followers. It's not easy being a made Juggalo musician as it is, and with them living dangerous lifestyles I see the big musicians dying early and the music suffering due to it, same with the juggalo listeners since a lot of them live similar unhealthy lifestyles.. As time goes by I think many Juggalo musicians will also quit making that kind of music. This is just what I expect to happen if it does not just lose popularity because people think it is bad music. |
I actually watched an interview with ICP and when the interviewer asked them about certain lyrics that made no sense, they were actually acting prideful about being uneducated. This kind of attitude already sets themselves up for failure in the future.
I also think all of this "scream at the top of your lungs" style of music will die out one of these days. It's one thing to make your voice sound raspy while singing, but the screaming stuff gets old quick. I used to love it when I was a teenager, but now it's just noise to me.
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| AspieRogue wrote: | | Moseley wrote: | | Fnord wrote: | | Rap - please! |
That's kind of doubtful really though. There's such a variety of rap genres and it appeals to so many people that I wouldn't say it will ever fade away, you know. |
I beg to differ. Rap has run its course and I daresay that by 2020 it will be completely gone. |
I agree/hope so. Rock lasted about 50 years in the mainstream, I would say from 1955-2005 though its roots go back to about the 1930s and it's still not completely obsolete, just hasn't really been mainstream music since Green Day's American Idiot was still charting singles or so. Hip hop has been mainstream for about 25 years or half that long, I'd say since around 1987 or so, but imo it's not nearly as versatile as rock. The main difference between hip hop subgenres is lyrical, not musical and I think its gimmicks are so entrenched that you can't really consider it 'cool' anymore, just kind of 'there'. American speech and even the speech of other Anglophone countries to some extent has permanently had an Ebonic twist on it due to the popularity of rap, and pop music has been permanently stamped by its influence, but you rarely hear songs that are purely rhymes and chorus anymore, mostly just guest rappers. I would say hip hop will have some mainstream presence for the rest of the '10s but will be totally melted into the musical landscape by 2020 and new rappers will no longer become popular. |
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Dubstep. It's just screams "fad genre." Don't get me wrong, there's dubstep I like, but even dubstep in the short amount of time it's gotten popular has redefined itself, with most dubstep losing the "filthy" sound to get more mass appeal. Dubstep certainly has left a mark on music, but the problem with it is, there's nothing in dubstep that makes it inherently dubstep, you can simply just put random dubstep influences into any song ever, so that alone will make it die.
As far as juggalo music, well, it's run it's mainstream success through in the 90s. The big problem isn't so much the actual music, it's the "culture" of juggalos, and even if the numbers are few (like they are now) there's going to be social misfit people who join that group of people, just for having the social group, since music is closely intertwined with social groups/status, especially here in the States. So in most ways, juggalo music has died out completely, you'll never hear ICP on the radio nowadays. Just the group remains, and sometimes gets stronger even, just because it appeals to...how do I put this nicely...idiots. Yeah.
As far as rap, I don't think it'll die. It'll evolve certainly, just as rock and pop does, but not die out completely, just rap of 20 years from now will be vastly different from rap of now. The other thing you gotta consider with rap, even if it dies amongst white people, black people and other minorities still love it regardless, and it's apart of their culture, for better or worse.
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donnie_darko
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| Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| 1000Knives wrote: | | Dubstep. It's just screams "fad genre." Don't get me wrong, there's dubstep I like, but even dubstep in the short amount of time it's gotten popular has redefined itself, with most dubstep losing the "filthy" sound to get more mass appeal. Dubstep certainly has left a mark on music, but the problem with it is, there's nothing in dubstep that makes it inherently dubstep, you can simply just put random dubstep influences into any song ever, so that alone will make it die. |
Even that Selena Gomez song 'Love You Like a Love Song' has a dubstep influence to it. |
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| 1000Knives wrote: | | Dubstep. It's just screams "fad genre." Don't get me wrong, there's dubstep I like, but even dubstep in the short amount of time it's gotten popular has redefined itself, with most dubstep losing the "filthy" sound to get more mass appeal. Dubstep certainly has left a mark on music, but the problem with it is, there's nothing in dubstep that makes it inherently dubstep, you can simply just put random dubstep influences into any song ever, so that alone will make it die. |
It borrows a lot but so does drum n bass, techno, trance, garage, house, etc.. all of which are either pushing 20 years or past it and still seem very much alive and well with even more terrain to push. I really think it will exist for a long time albeit the really BIG tear-the-roof-off industrial-strength wobbles will get old and likely you'll hear a lot more rhythmic and textural exploration instead. As for what dubstep 'is' in and of itself - its a compromise between two-step garage and dnb where they tried to take the dnb sounds, swagger, etc. and overhaul them for the 140ish range. In a lot of ways it feels nothing like dnb (at least the Skrillex and Flux Pavilion type stuff) but it does have more in common in terms of synchopation and swagger than any other style.
On a side note though I think the futures of dnb and dubstep are partially tied since they share a lot of common fanbase and I get the impression that you'll even see more of a push toward exploration of superhuman moods and atmospheres which will get more and more acute with time. |
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With the advent of the internet, I don't think any genre will die unless the internet does. Access to every genre that's ever been recorded, is easier that it ever has been in history. It's too easy for too many people to expose themselves to practically any genre their heart desires today. Ease of access, as long as it exists, means that every genre now has nearly equal chance of gaining a large enough audience to survive.
One massive solar flare though (or some other equally catastrophic cosmic event), and that could change in a heartbeat.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Rap and dubstep hopefully. |
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CyclopsSummers
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At this point, saying that rap is a genre, is like saying guitar is a genre.
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